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gimmesomeshelter
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 Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: Front Suspension Stiffener from CSP |
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Hello-
Has anyone tried one of these?
http://www.vwparts.net/CSP498001111A.html
They look like a good idea (assuming that you don't break off the mounting bolts while extracting them.) 
Thanks,
Paul
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74 Thing
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Those look like parts that originally came on Thing beams. Basically they attact to the ends of the beam and tie it in to the pan to make it more rigid for off roading. |
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Chad1376
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| 74 Thing wrote: |
| Those look like parts that originally came on Thing beams. Basically they attact to the ends of the beam and tie it in to the pan to make it more rigid for off roading. |
Here's the Thing brace - the bottom looks similar, but the CSP brace doesn't connect to the upper beam.
The Thing pan has a reinforced area where the brace attaches to the pan. I'm curious how the CSP is supposed to attach. It seems like it would help strengthen the beam from fore-aft movement, but I don't see how it would provide much benefit in keeping the beam from twisting along the tunnel axis.
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pupjoint
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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the CSP bars are 99% exact copies of what was fitted as OEM to Bugs exported to Japan and Thailand , a few more countries that I am not sure.
in my part of the world, we have been using these bars for close to 20 years now since we get them from abandoned cars.
the only part that is different is the squarish rectangle plate that acts as a washer.
this is how they look like on my 66
this is a Japan spec car, came factory fitted with these bars, see the washers
i do not know the exact reason why VW originally fitted these though , maybe some sort of safety compliance? |
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pupjoint
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: |
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some other pics
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john7
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: |
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bugpack has sold something similar for years for baja bugs. but they are really easy to make too and for way less $
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pupjoint
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| bugpack has sold something similar for years for baja bugs. but they are really easy to make too and for way less $ |
i have seen those and those feel really crappy. the OEM ones are really heavy and huge. I believe the CSP ones should be the same. |
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marekv8
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| I assume that the CSP pieces won't work with a slightly narrowed (2") beam? |
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pupjoint
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| I assume that the CSP pieces won't work with a slightly narrowed (2") beam? |
it should since it is a direct copy.
i am using the originals and i have a 4 inch narrowed beam and caster shims. |
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vwtaiwan
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| marekv8 wrote: |
| I assume that the CSP pieces won't work with a slightly narrowed (2") beam? |
For 2"~3" narrow beams, you need to redrill the grease fitting. |
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pupjoint
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| vwtaiwan wrote: |
| marekv8 wrote: |
| I assume that the CSP pieces won't work with a slightly narrowed (2") beam? |
For 2"~3" narrow beams, you need to redrill the grease fitting. |
yup forget bout that . My grease nipple was redrilled |
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marzano
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Casting Timmy
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| Very neat.... do these make a good difference? |
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Howard 111
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This is an OLD post, but it doesn't matter.
I run a turbo/FI street '73 Ghia. It was built just for straight line speed. I run no sway bars in the front. A 4' narrowed beam but KYB gas shocks all around, and a rear sway bar. The gas tank is a 10 gallon tank moved to the rear. It runs surprising well in corners. 
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