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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: steering box rebuild Reply with quote

hi folks,i have a 1968 standard beetle and i pulled the cover off my steering box and the inside of it was full of nasty sludge.i think its time to rebuild it maybe?anyways is there anyone who sells rebuild kits for them (basically new gaskets and parts)?and what type of oil did they use?thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not seen a kit for those in years.

They are not very expensive to replace with a reman unit.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you still have some threads showing on the adjustment screw and can adjust out the slop, just clean it and refill it. It may not hold oil anymore, many folks fill it with grease. You'll need to get creative with new plugs on the cover.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In doing a full restoration, would taking the steering box apart be a good idea, or should I not touch it if it was working? It's the original from the car.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked at the price of a replacement steering box on a super lately? They are expensive. Like over $350 bucks if you can find one. I would do everything I could to preserve the one you have. If it holds oil, make sure it's filled. If it doesn't, pop the top, clean it out, and fill it with grease. There is no drain on it, so if you have it off the bug, I'd probably clean it out either way. Someone could make some money just on the steering box when parting out rust bucket supers if it's in good working condition. There is a guy on ebay selling "reconditioned" super boxes. My guess is that he is just combining parts from multiple units to make one good one.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotrat wrote:
Have you looked at the price of a replacement steering box on a super lately? They are expensive. Like over $350 bucks if you can find one. I would do everything I could to preserve the one you have. If it holds oil, make sure it's filled. If it doesn't, pop the top, clean it out, and fill it with grease. There is no drain on it, so if you have it off the bug, I'd probably clean it out either way. Someone could make some money just on the steering box when parting out rust bucket supers if it's in good working condition. There is a guy on ebay selling "reconditioned" super boxes. My guess is that he is just combining parts from multiple units to make one good one.


I think the OP has a 68 beetle...in that case it's only around $120.00 for a new one.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotrat wrote:
Have you looked at the price of a replacement steering box on a super lately? They are expensive. Like over $350 bucks if you .


The question was regarding a steering box for 68 "standard" NOT a "super". Standard boxes are about $100 new.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinnems wrote:
In doing a full restoration, would taking the steering box apart be a good idea, or should I not touch it if it was working? It's the original from the car.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the exploded view of your standard steering box if you do attempt to take it apart...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=401488&start=0

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It seems a lot less complex than the ones for the Supers...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been through a few standard boxes. Seems like the worm gear wears out more than anything. If the seals are shot, fill it with grease instead of oil. I've heard that most people over-tighten their boxes and ruin them. New ones also seem to come set too tight. After cracking a few open, you'll learn that there isn't much too them. The big allen should just be finger tight to remove any axial play. The bearings are in a plastic retainer. The roller should be adjusted to just tough the worm with less than 1" of slop. If you try to get all the slop out, you'll over-tighten it.

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In SoCal you can get used ones for $0-$20 bucks off CL. Heck, you can get a complete beam drum to drum with the steering box for $50 every now and then
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool pics lottrat. I think this weekend I'll take apart my Super's steering box and try to put together a picture tutorial on cleaning it and putting it bac together. I love those kinds of topics Very Happy
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