Reinforcing the Beetle for Front end collision.

majurbludd

I know lots of Baja beetles have the class 11 cage for the interior as well as a rear cage for the engine. I am well aware of the Front bumpers for Bajas bugs as well. But those front bumpers only mount to the front beam and framehead of the car.

I have seen very few pictures of people reinforcing the front of the car. This is more than likely because few people are doing it. There is a few pictures of reinforcement of the front end on another forum that can be found with a quick google search.

Is there a bolt in or weld in brace for the front of the car, with the fuel tank relocated? I have already reinforced the framehead on my vehicle.

Someway to prevent you getting your legs chopped off in a daily driven vehicle, with a front end collision?

XLR8 · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:05 am Post subject:

youve seen the old bug crash test on youtube (along with the early golf)?

they appear to fold up on the frame-head and that helps absorb the energy.
not sure if removing this ability would be the best idea however, i have no idea and i'm sure no expert Wink

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andk5591 · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:22 am Post subject:

There's real science behind this - but I would suggest taking a look at drag cars, stock cars and related chassis designs. BUT there is a lot more to it than just stopping the car from intruding into the passenger compartment. The more you research this, the less you will know......
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dixon_cass · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:33 am Post subject:

i think you are looking for a stronger front end incase you hit somthing and you want minimal damage to the car. not a bad idea i would say if you are prepared for a hardter jaring motion when hitting somthing. i dont think it would be a bad idea as long as you had full safety harness and a strong neck. i would build it similar to a cage for the rear. come up from about by your feet forward and wrap the front and tie into the cage by the firewall. just my 2 cents. would be no different than a 4x4 rock crawler with a cage around the whole outside of the body which looks wicked as hell!

dirtkeeper · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:42 am Post subject:

the thing front ends have a brace built in stock for the front end that may provide a little help. Its basically a brace from the shock towers to the pan. probably can find some pics if you search. The stock bumper mounts to the body do provide a crush point to absorb some impact.
a lot of roll cages do have a brace or bar coming from the upper part of the front end back to the cage inside which probably helps.

AZ-BUG · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject:

This is what I did...

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There is a bolt on kit that goes from the beam to firewall on top, and beam to pan on the bottom... I'm sure CIP1, Chirco, etc all carry the kit.

majurbludd · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject:

majurbludd · Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:59 pm Post subject:

thanks Az-bug, the pics help a lot. any bolt on kit i would have to mod for my personal use.


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