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RHD Notch
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject: David Navarez 1963 23-Window @ VW Classic / Barrett-Jackson |
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Trying to find out if the bus below is the David Navarez bus that received 2nd Place in the Pre-67 Passenger Bus Class V20 at the VW Classic last weekend? I posted a photo of it in the Gallery and was contacted by some Sambanistas as to the color codes...if it's David's and he is here or if there is another owner, please post the codes here...Thanks, RHD
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Kommercial
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't that just Mouse grey / Pearl white?
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kanniff
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like MG/PW to me too- but dont forget the red deluxe trim  |
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turkis-deluxe
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I saw this bus at the show and overheard the owner saying it is Mouse Grey but the color did appear to be slightly off in my opinion.
Especially when you compare it to Lind's bus. |
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sventinker
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the bus up close at octo and the owner/builder insists it is mgr/pw. It is not in the least. It has a lot of brown and green in the gray and the pw is wrong too. Don't get me wrong it is a nice looking bus just a lot of money spent on the wrong color paint. IMO
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April 3rd 62 standard mgr/pw
374 North American equipment
Includes 6 popouts
025 Safety belts
195 Adjustable bench seat/backrest (until 1963)
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hitest
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I too drooled over that bus- and decided in person it looks a bit 'warmer' than Lind's Mouse Gray. I'm beyond caring due to it's inherent beauty.
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Douglas Denlinger
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Mouse grey.....it's very very difficult to get an exact match straight from any paint supplier today as most don't even have a formula. If they do have a forumla the pigments used today are very different than 50 years ago due to all the new environmental regulations.....example water based paint, etc.
It's best to use an original paint part or a period VW color sample book to insure the best match.
This is a nice bus...I spoke to the owner at OCTO, not originally built MGR PW bus, rather Tur BLW.
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greys are the hardest colors to mix.
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Here's the Glasurit Formula for Mouse Grey
Mouse Grey / Color code 325 / Year of usage 62-66H
70.0 parts 1051 weiB (White)
18.0 parts 1052 schwarz (Black)
09.5 parts 1053 ocker (Ochre)
02.5 parts 1054 rotbraun (Reddish-Brown)
I'm assuming the ocker here is the brown/orange colored version of ochre.
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Lind
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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the mouse grey looked too light, and the pearl white looked too dark. maybe they averaged out to the right colors... 
mouse grey is such an awesome color.
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iamdonquixote
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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looks good, even if its not a puurfect match.
I used PPG to paint my mouse grey and it looked a little too brown in my opionion
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sventinker
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| EverettB wrote: |
Here's the Glasurit Formula for Mouse Grey
Mouse Grey / Color code 325 / Year of usage 62-66H
70.0 parts 1051 weiB (White)
18.0 parts 1052 schwarz (Black)
09.5 parts 1053 ocker (Ochre)
02.5 parts 1054 rotbraun (Reddish-Brown)
I'm assuming the ocker here is the brown/orange colored version of ochre. |
From the paint page
"March 1961 up to July 1964
From Chassis Number 749 001 up to 1 328 271"
I also remember seeing in the mouse gray pearl white buses that in 61 the dash would have been gray. What models did they use mouse gray on past 1964?
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April 3rd 62 standard mgr/pw
374 North American equipment
Includes 6 popouts
025 Safety belts
195 Adjustable bench seat/backrest (until 1963)
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EverettB
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RHD Notch
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like this bus will be sold @ Barrett-Jackson this weekend...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1155981
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1963 Mouse Grey 23 Window Bus
Price: BARRETT JACKSON |
Translation: YOU can't afford it! 
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RHD Notch
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1963 Mouse Grey 23 Window Bus
Price: BARRETT JACKSON |
Translation: YOU can't afford it! |
BJ is always full of surprises being that everything sold is 'NO RESERVE'...could be 'bought right' or 'sold right'...only sure thing is there will be lotsa dickey-doo winners with their trophy wives....and you're right, I won't be one of them
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| I am at the point where I hardly want to own anything that isn't original paint. |
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T2
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| Did it sell yet? Curious how ridiculous the bidding went on it. |
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Snoop Bob
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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No...probably another hour or so...They are up to like 344ish.? now.
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