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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Is my steering column missing something? Reply with quote

I took off my steering wheel today to investigate the half inch of play from all sides. It would wiggle all over the place and was thinking that it was missing a bushing of some sort. Does anything look out of place in this picture? While I'm in here should I replace anything? Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is called the steerig wheel bearing that is missing or ? What year of bug?
http://www.karmannghia.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=8217

Look sorta like the picture link.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What year of bug?

Looks like a 1303 Super 73-79
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Alex, theres a bushing that sits between the steering shaft and the bearing in the housing that VW kindly changed from metal to plastic in 72.

They tend to go brittle and fall apart over time then that play starts.

You just have to remove the circlip under the steering wheel and pull out the grey spacer and its under that or what's left of it anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a 1974 super beetle. Yes, I expected it was a bushing not in place or something. Joel, You said that part of it was still in there? Do you know where I can get a new one?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C16%2D111%2D535D Wink

Just ignore that its for b/j, supers use the same one
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel wrote:

You just have to remove the circlip under the steering wheel and pull out the grey spacer and its under that or what's left of it anyway.


Does that bushing go in the gap where the shaft is sitting in my picture?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also missing that funny looking W spring clip that goes on the right side for the turn signals.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That spring clip is part of the self cancelling mechanism for the turn signals.
The little plastic hooks break off and the spring falls out.

I was forgetting yours would be a 74 taper shaft so no circlip.

Just pull that grey plastic spacer thing you can see slipped over the shaft out and then you will be able to see the bearing underneath.

That bushing sits in the gap between the bearing and the shaft and it can be a PITA to get in as it's a tight fit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smokey503 wrote:
Also missing that funny looking W spring clip that goes on the right side for the turn signals.


Do you know the part name for it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel wrote:
That spring clip is part of the self cancelling mechanism for the turn signals.
The little plastic hooks break off and the spring falls out.

I was forgetting yours would be a 74 taper shaft so no circlip.

Just pull that grey plastic spacer thing you can see slipped over the shaft out and then you will be able to see the bearing underneath.

That bushing sits in the gap between the bearing and the shaft and it can be a PITA to get in as it's a tight fit.


Thanks for the tips Joel Smile If I have any other questions ill be back Anxious
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good.

If you hunt around under the carpet you will probably find it.

Looks like this (not what the arrows point at, beside it.)

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Trouble is if it;s actually fallen out it means one of the plastic hooks has probably broken which is new turn signal switch time.
You can replace them with second hand bits but its a bitch of a job and all it does is the self cancelling part
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in a great mood today. So I thought I would offer you a free turn signal assembly if you need it. It is off a '72 Super but should work on yours.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smokey503 wrote:
I am in a great mood today. So I thought I would offer you a free turn signal assembly if you need it. It is off a '72 Super but should work on yours.


If you really want to! Very Happy PM me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recently had to replace the electrical part of my ignition switch and while removing the turn signal switch, the wires came loose from the plastic clip and now I can't find a diagram showing which order the wires are to be in. Can anyone provide a photo of the order of wires as well as if they should be on top or bottom? There are six wires. I'm pretty sure the brown ones are all in order but the black and green and the black and white ones are the ones causing me issues. Since plugging it all back in, my generator light comes on and my gas gauge won't work. I'm sure it's just a crossed wire. Thanks all for the help in advance. I also have a 1974 Super Beetle.

Side question, I have an extra spring. It's about half an inch long, quarter inch wide. I know it came out of the steering wheel column, but I can't figure out where it goes.

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i need this bushing for my 75 std but the canadian cip site shows this one - is it also a suitable replacement?

http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C24%2D171%2D419%2D341
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninian - did the spring maybe come off your steering wheel? i just looked my switch housing over and i see no springs
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know the actual name or part number of that W clip for the turn signals? I mine as well put one in there now instead of having to take the steering wheel off again but I can't find it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured out the spring. It went inside the metal part of the windshield wiper switch.

I'm still having issues getting the wiring corrected. I thought I had it, didn't think to look at the wires I'm connecting to and matching up the colors. However, now my horn continuously goes off as soon as I turn on my bug. I unplug the turn signal wires and it stopped. Before that, I unplugged the horn from the front panel of the steering wheel, but that didn't do anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search for the horn problem - it is an odd circuit - you will find your answer. i have my switch pod off if you need me to take a pick of the wiring connectors
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