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werker Redwood Wrencher

Joined: March 08, 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Separating the drum from the axle...
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: New 72 |
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Thought I'd post up the 72 I've been working on lately. Sold off the 58 single cab because I needed a smooth vehicle to travel in. Don't get me wrong, I like the old split window, but it is more of a piece of farm equipment than an actual vehicle. With that in mind, I picked up this nice 72 from Berkeley Ca. So far it has been the most original, least molested and finest running of any VW I've ever purchased (as purchased). Even the clock works!
Does anything appear to be missing or wrong in the engine compartment?
(I know about the air filter to body snorkel, and the missing start injector)
Best yet, look at all the stuff that came with it. A few extra rubbers, an interior kit I have no intention of installing, a muir manual, and even some bonus coolant. (The PO had no idea about cars. He told me on the phone that it was carbureted and didn't know how to work the heater or vent controls.)
Finally, does anybody know what this rack is off of?
The four parts that connect the rack to the roof are hose clamped on and aren't part of the rack. But the four posts with rubber feet are. What the heck is this rack from??
Also, how would I know if this car came originally with overriders?
Check out the aftermarket side stripping that a PO put on. Instead of a chrome line, a black line. It almost doesn't look that bad. I will replace it eventually.
Does it look lowered a little? I can't tell. _________________ 72 Squareback
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Getdownthump Samba Member

Joined: July 04, 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Australia - Ballarat VIC
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Looks great and does look like it escaped the molesters! Not sure on what's missing as I'm a twin carb guy but it does look OG in there too. |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18041 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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It does look like a Good Score! You'll need 20+ feet of 5/16" gas hose and new clamps to replace All your gas hoses. The original woven hoses will spring pin hole leaks any time now! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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supaninja Samba Member

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kage Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2004 Posts: 104 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I made the switch from a 67 crew cab and I have to agree, ride is a bit smoother. I'm also in a 72 square (f.i.) which looks pretty identical to yours. It's white, but the original color was the same. Mines got over riders front and rear and the same bumper with the rubber strip in the center, I think that was stock. I've got the same carpet kit too ( in oatmeal not black), which I'm in the process of installing. Looks nice so far, you should try it. |
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werker Redwood Wrencher

Joined: March 08, 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Separating the drum from the axle...
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm fuel lines. I suppose that would be a good idea. I've actually seen now a few VW burning up in front of me. (Never mine). Nick, thanks for the jegs link. I'll pick that up and get replacing.
So there is a short soft span from the tank to the hard line, then again at the hardline to the rear. Right? And then it's all engine compartment lines. Will that hose work for my fuel rails as well? Or would I need different hose. Also, are we talking normal screw driver hose clamps or those weird ones that hold the fuel rail together?
And ideas about my rack? _________________ 72 Squareback
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18041 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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There is a bunch by the fuel pump supply/return/filter/dampener etc. I eliminated my metal 'pancake' dampener. Replace ALL of it! I just bought 20 worm drive slotted/hex head clamps at my local Knecht's for $13.80. Use the hex head to tighten them. I think I'm gonna need more clamps! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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Root_Werks Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2007 Posts: 1026 Location: San Juan Islands
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Umm, woah dudes. I normally don't chime in with my opinions....but that looks like "universal" fuel hose correct? D-Jet runs around 30psig right? Most "universal" fuel line is only rated to 15psig. Why not just go to Pelican Parts dot com and order up the correct High Pressure rated 7mm and 9mm hoses for supply and return? It's the correct made in Germany stuff. I've replaced all fuel lines on 1 stock squareback FI and one L-Jet bug. I would never use "universal" fuel lines.......never on a FI car.
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supaninja Samba Member

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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18041 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Russ Wolfe told us Mahle tested 'universal' fuel hose to 250lbs. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
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Root_Werks Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2007 Posts: 1026 Location: San Juan Islands
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: |
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supaninja wrote: |
The modern fuel hose is called "universal" but is rated to 50psi, more then plenty for djet  |
Kay, I can buy that in concept. Still not gonna change what I put on my VW's or friends VW's.
I've done my old man "safety" speach. I'll shut up now.  _________________ When I set my timing, why do I flush, then take a pee? |
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supaninja Samba Member

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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35667 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Use the right EFI hose clamps so you don't cut the jacket tightening them:
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werker Redwood Wrencher

Joined: March 08, 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Separating the drum from the axle...
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Nice. So are there two sizes of line (7mm and 9mm inlet/outlet) that need replacing and the 5/16 universal will work for both? That sounds odd. But let me know if I'm understanding correctly.
And KTPhil, do you have a source for those improved clamps? _________________ 72 Squareback
9th air-cooled
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2150 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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those hose clamps are the best... i got tired of hose get cut by the worm gear clamps so ive gone to these, best decision ever.. i even discovered that where i removed one of the hoses i had cut through the hose and was leaking fuel im just glad i didnt turn into a fireball _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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FergU Samba Member

Joined: August 07, 2011 Posts: 267 Location: Huntsville, AL
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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werker wrote: |
Nice. So are there two sizes of line (7mm and 9mm inlet/outlet) that need replacing and the 5/16 universal will work for both? That sounds odd. But let me know if I'm understanding correctly. |
The 5/16 is about the same as 9mm. For anything that uses 7mm, you use the clamp to reduce/tighten down to it. You just cannot make the hose bigger, but can tighten down to a little smaller. _________________ 1962 Type 1
1963 Type 14 - Karmann Ghia "Sadie" (Restoration progress - http://vwsexysadie.wordpress.com)
1972 Type 3 - Squareback "Joseph" (Restoration Progress - http://jpdproject.wordpress.com/) |
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35667 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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werker wrote: |
Nice. So are there two sizes of line (7mm and 9mm inlet/outlet) that need replacing and the 5/16 universal will work for both? That sounds odd. But let me know if I'm understanding correctly.
And KTPhil, do you have a source for those improved clamps? |
Easy, I found them at Kragen and Pep Boys. They are common. In fact, they had too many sizes so I bought a couple and used the ones that fit best. Bring a snippet of new hose with you and see how they will fit best. Someone posted a link online a while ago but I always found them at most FLAPS. |
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werker Redwood Wrencher

Joined: March 08, 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Separating the drum from the axle...
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Small update, finally got the foglights and some bumper overriders installed.
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9th air-cooled
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oxsign Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Sanford, FL
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Looks real good. I just picked up a '71 fastback and want to add the same fogs & bumpers. |
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