1950 Porsche #14

[bruce jones]

I took these photos in 1983. The owner of the car stated this was the 14th "production" Porsche built, in 1950. I don't know whet ever became of the owner, or the car.

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Driving in the slow lane since 1969.

[bill brown]

Back in the 70s & 80s, Bob Heller owned this car. He used to drive it to 356 Registry Holidays back then. It`s now restored, and I believe it`s black.

[bruce jones]

Yes, the photos were taken at Bob's place in Westport. Here are a couple more:

It seems to me the '50 VW belonged to someone named Allen. Bob was doing some sort of work on it.

Thanks for the update on the Porsche.
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Driving in the slow lane since 1969.

[bruce jones]

Here is what it evidently looks like after restoration. I am surprised to see it in black; I remember Bob telling me it was originally silver, and that he intended to keep it in its "survivor" state. Also, the hood straps have been omitted.

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Driving in the slow lane since 1969.

[Jacks]

What happened to the steering wheel?

[Bleyseng]

looks like someone installed a pretty new non correct one.
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[bruce jones]

I don't really know much about the pre-A Porsches, but it appears that a number of details have been changed on the restored version.

When I first saw the car, Bob was emphatic that it was an all-original survivor, and that he intended to leave it unrestored.
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[mpribanic]

Cool pics! Thanks for sharing
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https://vimeo.com/67661950

[bruce jones]

In case you aren't sick of this car already, here's more (Thanks to Tom McCoy for the research):

"I looked it up in the 356 Data Base, here is what is in there (note near the bottom it states the current owner is Peter Porsche. Stuart Zeh is another big name in collecting these old cars):

Year Built: 1950
Model Year: 1950
Style: pre-A
Coachbuilder: Reutter

5014-5015

This vehicle would have come with an engine from the following types and number ranges:

Internal name: 369
Common name: 1100
First number: 101
Last number: 411

[Note: Ignore the first digit if it is a "5". Example: if a serial number above is 5085001, it should be read as 085001. One exception: 1300S engines had a serial number between 50001 and 50999 - in this case, do not ignore the first 5!]

Database results:

VIN: 5014
original engine: P*115

color: black (501)/red vinyl/carpet/black
Options:
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built: delivered:
Dealer: ERNST ISLINGER MOTORFAHZEUGE Mannheim, GERMANY
Ownership history: Stuart Zeh, NJ [email protected]; ex Bob Heller, CT 203/938-8064; ex Fred Vosselman, NY; original Leroy Nickell, GERMANY
Condition: Restored to world class standards.
Comments: -Restored exactly as per original Kardex -top raising lever

source: Nov 03, driver-motor, response (NET)
date: 7/12/2005 6:17:13 PM
VIN: 5014

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ownership history: Peter Porsche, GERMANY; ex Stuart Zeh, NJ [email protected]; ex Bob Heller, CT 203/938-8064; ex Fred Vosselman, NY; original owner Leroy Nickell, GERMANY
condition: restored
comments:
contact:
source: Dec 10, restored-motor, comment ([email protected])
date: 12/31/2011"

Apparently, the car is now owned by Peter Porsche, and is at the Porsche museum in Stuttgart. Here is a video:


Link

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[Michael Rogers]

The steering wheel that is on the car in "OG" pictures is an aftermarket Petri steering wheel that I believe is called the "supurb" and it is an amazing steering wheel. Correct for the car but not original, correct me if I am wrong. Wouldn't the car have orginally come with a 3 spoke banjo wheel?

[Wiggy]

Yes, I believe the steering wheel as restored is the correct one. The other is an accessory wheel.
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[Michael Rogers]

I knew I had seen one of those Petri supurb steering wheels somewhere! Check out this listing on ebay....damn that is one expensive steering wheel. That car would have not come with that wheel it was added at some point, not that there is anything wrong with that because it is an era correct wheel for that car.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PETRI-SUPERB-RAREST-ALL-ST...56487bd2f2

[Jacks]

Oh, OK. So, what happened to the steering wheel?

[Bruce]

[Speedsterboy]

[kevm]

[dcheek]

I was an entrant with my 914 at the 50th Anniversary Porsche Parade in Hershey PA where this 356 was shown. In attendance was the Porsche family, Peter, Wolfgang and sons. The Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ (John and Ray) did the restoration to exacting standards. I remember them mentioning that they had to make, from scratch, 4 hub caps since none were available either used or repopped. Also, Ray had to call in the chap that taught him how to do convertible tops to recreate an exact duplicate since the original top was toast. Cost? Don't ask. This one was off the scale. As mentioned earlier it was sold to Porsche and I think it was in the 7 figures. It was a stunning car to view first hand, mainly due to its simplicity and basic design.

Stuart Zeh has owned many Concours Porsches and spares no expense in restorations. This car was no exception. Just plain stunning. I was glad I had a chance to see it before it went to the Porsche Museum.

Dave
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[Bruce]

[Bleyseng]

It looked nice when I saw it there.

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77 Westy 2.0L w/Ljet, Camper Special engine-95hp and with LSD!(sold)
76 Porsche 914 2.1L L20c, 120hp Djet (sold)
87 Syncro Westy Titan Red 2.1L 2 knob 100k miles

[Jacks]

Porsche rebodied it as a coupe?