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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Super beetle Self adjusting rear brakes Reply with quote

I have a 73 super with self adjusting rear drum brakes.
There is an arm that adjusts the brake shoes automatically and I wonder if anyone knows what one should think about when assembling this?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

photos plz!

old vw's did not come stock with self adjusting brakes.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible to get self adjusting brakes for the rear on bugs?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the illustration below:
I have the second version of brakes.
It is item 32 that I wonder about. How should this be set up?
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Perhaps it was only a European or Swedish option but 1303 73 and forward had as far as I know self adjusting rear brakes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not saying thy didn't have them in the US,,, But I have yet to work with/see A set. If the set up works that would be A nice up-grade!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a picture of the brakes in a car (bad picture):
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very interesting! looks like it might work off of the hand brake. when you set your hand brake it adjusts the shoes.

is there anything at the bottom of the backing plate where the adjusting stars would normally be located at to keep the shoes in place?

i wonder if this was just an option for sweden or if other countries may of had it also and how rare this is or isnt.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no lower adjustment. The metal block where the adjuster stars would be has only slots for the brake shoes.
I have read somewhere that it was a legal requirement in Sweden.
The adjuster is pretty thin metal and is bent on my car. It would be great if someone could tell me what to think about when reinstalling the shoes springs adjuster etc.
The springs are quite different to the "normal" version with the adjuster stars.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was quite common on most cars of the same era, particularly Jap-scrap, I remember my 74 Celica having it and wondering why VWs didn't.

It works of a funky ratchet type setup when the handbrake is operated.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "pawl".
The pawl advances the star each time the hand break is cycled through. In theory anyhow. Corrosion from road salt wreaked havoc on that hardware. My 83(?) Dodge Charger 2.2 had the same set up.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool, i've never seen this before. interesting find.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beleive it's a swedish-thing. For some reason the Swedish beetles had these, from a certain year, standard. Legislation, maybe?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, those are cool. Maybe it has something to do with trolls. Beata, you do have problems with trolls sabotaging your brakes, right?

Just kidding. My last name is Lundberg, which I hear is pretty common in Sweden. But I wish my last name was Porsche sometimes Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: self adjusters Reply with quote

I along with others have put the Vanagon self adjusters on earlier
bays.
I wonder if the setup in the pics are Rabbit/golf parts?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roostalee wrote:
Wow, those are cool. Maybe it has something to do with trolls. Beata, you do have problems with trolls sabotaging your brakes, right?

Just kidding. My last name is Lundberg, which I hear is pretty common in Sweden. But I wish my last name was Porsche sometimes Wink
Porsche would be A good family name,, but cents Im not A Porsche, I'll stick with being A Hirst Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Lundberg is a pretty common name in Sweden!
Do yoy have Swedish ancestors perhaps?

I Guess I should look at a rabbit and see if they have thé same setup. My adjuster arm is pretty worn out and should be replaced.

Thanks for thé input!
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