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Beata Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2010 Posts: 73 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: Super beetle Self adjusting rear brakes |
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I have a 73 super with self adjusting rear drum brakes.
There is an arm that adjusts the brake shoes automatically and I wonder if anyone knows what one should think about when assembling this? |
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JonF Samba Member

Joined: December 16, 2005 Posts: 2030 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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photos plz!
old vw's did not come stock with self adjusting brakes. _________________ 68 bug 1600sp 30/31
68 baja 1600sp 010 32ndix |
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flierbob Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2008 Posts: 538 Location: Silverdale WA
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Is it possible to get self adjusting brakes for the rear on bugs?
Bob |
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Beata Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2010 Posts: 73 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Look at the illustration below:
I have the second version of brakes.
It is item 32 that I wonder about. How should this be set up?
Perhaps it was only a European or Swedish option but 1303 73 and forward had as far as I know self adjusting rear brakes. |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Not saying thy didn't have them in the US,,, But I have yet to work with/see A set. If the set up works that would be A nice up-grade!! _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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Beata Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2010 Posts: 73 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Here is a picture of the brakes in a car (bad picture):
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JonF Samba Member

Joined: December 16, 2005 Posts: 2030 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:31 am Post subject: |
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very interesting! looks like it might work off of the hand brake. when you set your hand brake it adjusts the shoes.
is there anything at the bottom of the backing plate where the adjusting stars would normally be located at to keep the shoes in place?
i wonder if this was just an option for sweden or if other countries may of had it also and how rare this is or isnt. _________________ 68 bug 1600sp 30/31
68 baja 1600sp 010 32ndix |
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Beata Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2010 Posts: 73 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:39 am Post subject: |
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There is no lower adjustment. The metal block where the adjuster stars would be has only slots for the brake shoes.
I have read somewhere that it was a legal requirement in Sweden.
The adjuster is pretty thin metal and is bent on my car. It would be great if someone could tell me what to think about when reinstalling the shoes springs adjuster etc.
The springs are quite different to the "normal" version with the adjuster stars. |
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Joel Samba Member

Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:05 am Post subject: |
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It was quite common on most cars of the same era, particularly Jap-scrap, I remember my 74 Celica having it and wondering why VWs didn't.
It works of a funky ratchet type setup when the handbrake is operated. _________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
1974 Germanlook 1303 2.5 Suba-Beetle |
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Willhelm Samba Member

Joined: February 13, 2011 Posts: 818 Location: NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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A "pawl".
The pawl advances the star each time the hand break is cycled through. In theory anyhow. Corrosion from road salt wreaked havoc on that hardware. My 83(?) Dodge Charger 2.2 had the same set up. |
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torsionbar Samba Member

Joined: December 11, 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: earf
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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cool, i've never seen this before. interesting find. _________________
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[air cooled vw's] are no longer suitable for the general public. The owner has to be be able to maintain the car. And that is after fixing all the deferred maintenance items and ill-conceived modifications. If you can't do those things you are pretty much screwed. |
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Gerrelt Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2004 Posts: 698 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I beleive it's a swedish-thing. For some reason the Swedish beetles had these, from a certain year, standard. Legislation, maybe? _________________ homepage
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Roostalee Samba Member

Joined: February 17, 2012 Posts: 337 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, those are cool. Maybe it has something to do with trolls. Beata, you do have problems with trolls sabotaging your brakes, right?
Just kidding. My last name is Lundberg, which I hear is pretty common in Sweden. But I wish my last name was Porsche sometimes  _________________ Every morning, Greggery drives his little red Volkswagen to the ugly part of town where they keep the government buildings. "Voodn, voodn! Boy it's so hard to find a place to park around here!" |
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old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: self adjusters |
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I along with others have put the Vanagon self adjusters on earlier
bays.
I wonder if the setup in the pics are Rabbit/golf parts? _________________ V.W.owner since 1967 |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, those are cool. Maybe it has something to do with trolls. Beata, you do have problems with trolls sabotaging your brakes, right?
Just kidding. My last name is Lundberg, which I hear is pretty common in Sweden. But I wish my last name was Porsche sometimes  |
Porsche would be A good family name,, but cents Im not A Porsche, I'll stick with being A Hirst  _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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Beata Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2010 Posts: 73 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Yes Lundberg is a pretty common name in Sweden!
Do yoy have Swedish ancestors perhaps?
I Guess I should look at a rabbit and see if they have thé same setup. My adjuster arm is pretty worn out and should be replaced.
Thanks for thé input! |
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