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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3327 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: Automatic Subaru converts. What say you plz |
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Snapped my last head stud on a wasser repair. _________________ If You Build It______It Will Run
1959 Panel bus, 1966 Single cab. 73' 181. 73 Westy. 91' H6 Vanagon 3.3L.
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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2.2, go ahead...anything larger plan on doing some to the tranny.
I myself have been thinking about a second daily driver and would like to use a 2.2 with an auto, purely for lazy reliable factor
does that help? oh I have a 2.2 swap in the classifieds |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76706 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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I have a friend with a auto Vanagon and Subie engine. They say that top speed is limited by the gearing of the AT and wish they had a manual tranny. _________________ Glenn
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themervino Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2008 Posts: 87 Location: Bryson City NC
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have a auto tranny with a 98 Subie 2.2 in a 90 van. Except for the lower miles per gallon I cannot praise it enough. I have the govenor shaved pretty good and it will up and cruise. If I'm climbing a steep gradient speed will drop down to about 58mph and I just kick the peddle to the floor and whoa step back. It will quickly pull to about 65 and then naturally shift back to 3rd gear. Now that feels good. A very reliable tranny. And as you read above I'm not over kind to it. Shave that govenor. Use that torque. Wind it out a bit. Merv [/list] |
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Wolfram Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2005 Posts: 184 Location: Waiheke Island/On The Road USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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We have an 88 Westy auto with an '08 Impreza Vanaru. The 2.5 revs higher than the 2.1 wasser and is definitely noisier than the 2.1 stock but the torque more than makes up for it. Would a lower final drive be better? Probably, but cost is always a consideration.
Geoff
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JeffRobenolt Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1513 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I have an Auto with a 95 Ej22.
I have the largest tires you can fit on a 2wd, 225/75/15 to lower the rpm's.
They weight so much it doesn't help the MPG.
I have shaved the govenor,
Put in a modified rabbit valve body that changed the shift points, from GTA
Audi 5000 Turbo 4 pinion planetary gears and bigger direct/rev clutch with an extra clutch disc and the forward clutch has an extra disc. All new steels and frictions and bushings and master set from GTA.
The torque converter was lowered 400 rpm's to make up for the more torque of the Subaru.
Has been very reliable and couldn't be any tougher.
Now, I am considering pulling the Subaru and Auto to put in a 4 speed and a TDI for the fuel economy.
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Subarugears Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2012 Posts: 294 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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er Jeff et al, why not just fit the reversed Subaru 5 speed that matches the engine? It's perfectly matched to the torque characteristics of your engine and will have you purring along the highway.
Cost is always a factor but if you pick up a good transmission core, the $2200 reversing kit will have you driving 5 gears in no time. _________________ http://www.subarugears.com |
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JeffRobenolt Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1513 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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It already purrs down the highway, just at 18mpg at 3500 rpm's, not optimum.
Yes your trans it the way to go, wish it was available before I built my auto, that wasn't cheap either!!!
My 90 Carat with an ALH TDI-E with a vw 4 speed with a .7 4th has got me up to 36mpg.
The only thing that will beat that is when you get the adapter plate done to put an ALH TDI to your reversed ringed Suby trans
I'll be in on that! _________________ --------------------------------------------------------
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ftp2leta Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 3271 Location: Montreal
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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3327 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Want to keep the auto trans. If I want to shift manual then I drive my 181
Back so bad now I can't lift my left leg enough to hit the clutch if I wanted to. _________________ If You Build It______It Will Run
1959 Panel bus, 1966 Single cab. 73' 181. 73 Westy. 91' H6 Vanagon 3.3L.
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ftp2leta Samba Member
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Subarugears Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2012 Posts: 294 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:37 am Post subject: |
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jrobewesty wrote: |
It already purrs down the highway, just at 18mpg at 3500 rpm's, not optimum.
Yes your trans it the way to go, wish it was available before I built my auto, that wasn't cheap either!!!
My 90 Carat with an ALH TDI-E with a vw 4 speed with a .7 4th has got me up to 36mpg.
The only thing that will beat that is when you get the adapter plate done to put an ALH TDI to your reversed ringed Suby trans
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The adaptor plate for the 058 / AFN TDI is already done and installed in a Vanagon - will that do?
Oh by the way, the 5 speed reversed Subie AUTO is nearly done.
Might put a Subie TDI boxer behind one of those and see how it all goes. _________________ http://www.subarugears.com |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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We have been happy with out 2.2 conversion with an auto. The biggest improvement is taking off from a stop. Feels like twice the pep, you have to go easy on the throttle to keep the tires from chirping when pulling out into traffic. We have 27/8.5r14 tires on it at this point, which means it doesn't have much more tractive effort in high gear than the WBXer did with the stock 205/70r14s. I certainly wouldn't want it geared any higher or to have a torque converter with a lower stall, the 2.2 seems to be matched very well to the stock VW auto box.
We get about 19 mpg on the highway, which is about one MPG less than the 2.1 WBXer did. |
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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3327 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Wildthings wrote: |
We have been happy with out 2.2 conversion with an auto. The biggest improvement is taking off from a stop. Feels like twice the pep, you have to go easy on the throttle to keep the tires from chirping when pulling out into traffic. We have 27/8.5r14 tires on it at this point, which means it doesn't have much more tractive effort in high gear than the WBXer did with the stock 205/70r14s. I certainly wouldn't want it geared any higher or to have a torque converter with a lower stall, the 2.2 seems to be matched very well to the stock VW auto box.
We get about 19 mpg on the highway, which is about one MPG less than the 2.1 WBXer did. |
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