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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5491 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Cusser wrote: |
Hard start relay, not uncommon.
I don't use one on my 1970 or 1971. |
That one looks more like a “hard to start” relay! It likely needs to be replaced. I’ve used them and not used them. The inrush current of the starter circuit is hard on switches. I’d rather add a hard start relay than replace an ignition switch that’s otherwise good. My perspective may be a bit different, since most of my Bugs have been ‘59-‘64 and OEM ignition switches haven’t been available for some time. _________________
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OldSchoolVW's Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 712 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Sloanstavern wrote: |
If I have a five prong 30 amp 12 V relay would that work? |
Well ... yes if the wires are connected correctly for that relay.
This one will work, but you can probably find it for less.
https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-332-Multi-Purpose-Rel...amp;sr=8-5
I'd check to be sure the starter will engage and turn when power is applied. Use a 12 gauge or larger wire as a jumper between terminals 30 and 50 on the starter solenoid to see if it engages and turns. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
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Sloanstavern Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2014 Posts: 35 Location: Chandler AZ
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Cusser wrote: |
Hard start relay, not uncommon.
I don't use one on my 1970 or 1971. |
Thanks for the tip |
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Sloanstavern Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2014 Posts: 35 Location: Chandler AZ
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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EVfun wrote: |
Cusser wrote: |
Hard start relay, not uncommon.
I don't use one on my 1970 or 1971. |
That one looks more like a “hard to start” relay! It likely needs to be replaced. I’ve used them and not used them. The inrush current of the starter circuit is hard on switches. I’d rather add a hard start relay than replace an ignition switch that’s otherwise good. My perspective may be a bit different, since most of my Bugs have been ‘59-‘64 and OEM ignition switches haven’t been available for some time. |
Thanks I will replace it |
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Sloanstavern Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2014 Posts: 35 Location: Chandler AZ
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
Sloanstavern wrote: |
If I have a five prong 30 amp 12 V relay would that work? |
Well ... yes if the wires are connected correctly for that relay.
This one will work, but you can probably find it for less.
https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-332-Multi-Purpose-Rel...amp;sr=8-5
I'd check to be sure the starter will engage and turn when power is applied. Use a 12 gauge or larger wire as a jumper between terminals 30 and 50 on the starter solenoid to see if it engages and turns. |
Thanks , when I test fired the engine , wired the starter direct, bypassed the ignition switch and she fires strong. I will try a new relay, if no joy, Ill look at the ignition switch itself |
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khangames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2022 Posts: 12 Location: Crestview, FL
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Probably common knowledge, but my bug came missing a few things. Can someone tell me what size bolts to use for:
1) The license plate.
2) The fresh air box knob mount.
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31392 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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khangames wrote: |
Probably common knowledge, but my bug came missing a few things. Can someone tell me what size bolts to use for:
1) The license plate
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Carriage bolts, 1/4" thread _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Lost69Convertible Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2020 Posts: 449 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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I removed my frozen rear wheel cylinder and compared the cast-in logo to the replacement ATE cylinder. Rome was right, the old frozen cylinder is ATE.
Old frozen cylinder:
New replacement cylinder:
I don't want to throw away anything that might be original to the car. I'd like to rebuild the frozen ATE cylinder for use as a spare. _________________ 1956 Beetle Ragtop: My Father's car
1969 Beetle Convertible: My first car. I loved it, I lost it, and I never got over it.
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khangames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2022 Posts: 12 Location: Crestview, FL
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:31 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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khangames wrote: |
Probably common knowledge, but my bug came missing a few things. Can someone tell me what size bolts to use for:
2) The fresh air box knob mount.
Thanks. |
If anyone stumbles upon this later, the answer is M6x1. |
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Marks_Bug Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2022 Posts: 38 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:53 pm Post subject: "Independent Rear Suspension" (IRS) |
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Pardon me, but I sometimes wonder about the dumbest things so I thought this was the best thread.
As I recall, VW always bragged about their "Independent torsion bar suspension" as a selling point starting with all the bugs and other air-cooled vehicles they made.
In this forum (and other sources) you refer to only the articulated drive axle as "IRS" when the older, straight axle was still, technically, independently suspended and therefore "IRS" as well! What gives? _________________ I'd be perfect if I wasn't so humble
Others owned- 1959 Beetle, 1959 Beetle, 1969 Beetle, 1971 Type 3, 1978 Bus |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5491 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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All Bugs do have an independent rear suspension but we need some way to separate them for discussion. So, convention is to call the older design "swingaxle" and the newer style IRS. The later design looks like the IRS suspension familiar to most people. _________________
Wildthings wrote: |
As a general rule, cheap parts are the most expensive parts you can buy. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31392 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:18 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Lost69Convertible wrote: |
I don't want to throw away anything that might be original to the car. I'd like to rebuild the frozen ATE cylinder for use as a spare. |
Wheel cylinders are quite simple, and little hones for them are inexpensive. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Lost69Convertible Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2020 Posts: 449 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Cusser wrote: |
Wheel cylinders are quite simple, and little hones for them are inexpensive. |
I still need to get the Bug off the lift, torque the big castle nut etc., and give it a road test. So I haven't had time to take the old cylinder apart. But I know this much: both plungers on the frozen cylinder won't slide and they won't rotate. Is there a good technique to get frozen plungers out of the cylinder body? _________________ 1956 Beetle Ragtop: My Father's car
1969 Beetle Convertible: My first car. I loved it, I lost it, and I never got over it.
1979 Super Beetle Convertible |
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mikeonthebike Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 954 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam? |
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OldSchoolVW's Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 712 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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mikeonthebike wrote: |
Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam? |
You'd need to attach some type of wind deflector across the front of the rack. Wrapping it just creates more surface area for the air to contend with resulting in more wind noise. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
'70 Beetle Sedan
'73 Type 3 Fastback |
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BCE56 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2013 Posts: 359 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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What kind of gear oil is green/turquoise in color? _________________ =BCE56=
'86 Syncro tintop
EJ22, OBD II early SC adapter plate conversion
Side project: '69 Frankenbug "It's alive!" |
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mikeonthebike Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 954 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
mikeonthebike wrote: |
Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam? |
You'd need to attach some type of wind deflector across the front of the rack. Wrapping it just creates more surface area for the air to contend with resulting in more wind noise. |
Thanks. Anything I can buy or do I have to make one? I work at a plastics distribution warehouse. I can probably make one out of acrylic or polycarb. |
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OldSchoolVW's Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 712 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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mikeonthebike wrote: |
OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
mikeonthebike wrote: |
Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam? |
You'd need to attach some type of wind deflector across the front of the rack. Wrapping it just creates more surface area for the air to contend with resulting in more wind noise. |
Thanks. Anything I can buy or do I have to make one? I work at a plastics distribution warehouse. I can probably make one out of acrylic or polycarb. |
Something along this line would probably work:
https://www.amazon.com/LT-Sport-Fairing-Carrier-De...1f14d7f644
I looked at your bug in your gallery. The rack is a bit tall. Maybe you could use the one on Amazon as a base/foundation and fabricate a larger deflector to attach to it. I don't know of any place that sells one specifically for the racks that go on Bugs. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
'70 Beetle Sedan
'73 Type 3 Fastback |
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mikeonthebike Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 954 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
Something along this line would probably work:
https://www.amazon.com/LT-Sport-Fairing-Carrier-De...1f14d7f644
I looked at your bug in your gallery. The rack is a bit tall. Maybe you could use the one on Amazon as a base/foundation and fabricate a larger deflector to attach to it. I don't know of any place that sells one specifically for the racks that go on Bugs. |
The plastic is the easy part. I just need to devise some brackets to mount it. I could probably make it work to help when the sunroof is, too.
Or just live with the noise.
I don't know yet how much louder it will be with the sunroof open. |
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Maddel Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2013 Posts: 935
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:27 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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mikeonthebike wrote: |
OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
Something along this line would probably work:
https://www.amazon.com/LT-Sport-Fairing-Carrier-De...1f14d7f644
I looked at your bug in your gallery. The rack is a bit tall. Maybe you could use the one on Amazon as a base/foundation and fabricate a larger deflector to attach to it. I don't know of any place that sells one specifically for the racks that go on Bugs. |
The plastic is the easy part. I just need to devise some brackets to mount it. I could probably make it work to help when the sunroof is, too.
Or just live with the noise.
I don't know yet how much louder it will be with the sunroof open. |
Mr. Jimbug57's solution: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
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