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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:42 am    Post subject: Headlight upgrade Reply with quote

Can H4 headlights with a 55/60 bulb be used without wiring relays in a stock 69 bug, assuming the generator is working to specs and new wiring harness? I've been searching past posts but I don't seem to be able to find an answer.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, should work fine.

I'm running a pair of 55/60 (these) in mine with its' original wiring harness, no problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have H4's with 55/60 bulbs in my '71 with the original wiring with no issues.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just clean and put new connectors on as needed and stock wiring should be fine to handle them. I ran a new ground wire and put new terminal end on mine just because the old stuff was falling apart and corroded.

I have zero issues and a much better light output.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put HIDs in mine, they're awesome! Spent about $80 for everything as a package on eBay.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put LEDs in my bus about 6 months ago and I seriously regret waiting as long as I did to upgrade. Got em from here.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1801829

Lower wattage, less draw on the electrical system and less wear and tear on the relay.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikeboy480 wrote:
I put LEDs in my bus about 6 months ago and I seriously regret waiting as long as I did to upgrade. Got em from here.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1801829

Lower wattage, less draw on the electrical system and less wear and tear on the relay.


Looks like I'm getting rid of the H4's lol. Thanks for the link.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. All have agreed that the lower wattage bulbs will work ok. But, if you have a DVOM (digital volt ohmmeter) hook the positive from the meter to the positive batt terminal and the negative from the meter to either of the four conections on the back of the headlight ( low beam and high beam, rt and lt) and turn the lights on. The dvom will do the math and tell you what the voltage drop is in that circuit. So, doing this will give you 4 readings for the 4 individual circuits. You can do the same method for the ground circuit. I have seen voltage drops at the fuse box, headlight switch, hi/lo relay, and the ground circuit. Enjoy, Bill.
PS: youtube has videos on this process.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Headlight upgrade Reply with quote

johneliot wrote:
Can H4 headlights with a 55/60 bulb be used without wiring relays in a stock 69 bug, assuming the generator is working to specs and new wiring harness? I've been searching past posts but I don't seem to be able to find an answer.

I've been running 55/60watt halogens in my 70 bug since the mid 70s. A straight bulb swap outside the USA where bulb and reflector lights remained stock.

No wiring changes needed at all, and excellent lights.

You can even get similar 6v halogen bulbs for older bugs these days.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week I replaced the headlight halogen H4 bulbs with LED bulbs on my '74 SB.
HUGE difference. LED bulbs are way much brighter than halogen bulbs (although not as bright asHIDs) and have lower power consumption.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These look nice. Looking at their pictures there appears to be a cut off in the projection of the light. Can anyone confirm this? I don't want to get something that will blind other drivers.

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bikeboy480 wrote:
I put LEDs in my bus about 6 months ago and I seriously regret waiting as long as I did to upgrade. Got em from here.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1801829

Lower wattage, less draw on the electrical system and less wear and tear on the relay.


Looks like I'm getting rid of the H4's lol. Thanks for the link.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all. You state the led upgrade from halogen h4's are brighter. Ok. How are they brighter? When I upgraded to a European h4, such as Cibie, Hella, or Bosch, the, advertised, low beam reflective range was out to, somewhat like, 1000'. I would like to see what those led's look like. I'm not really concerned beyond 1000' but down at approx. 300-400 feet is respectable for low speed driving. As a former military contractor I viewed the newer big trucks called "HEMITT'S" are now using a led round headlight. But, I know I'm driving faster than that truck.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill, I'd be happy to shoot a short video of me driving around the neighborhood with the lights on, would that help?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see that also. If you could pull up to a wall too and show the cut off. Thanks.

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Bill, I'd be happy to shoot a short video of me driving around the neighborhood with the lights on, would that help?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Hella H-4's have a nice cut-off, but, they are units from the 80's. I have to remind myself that they aren't projectors when I see the cut-off when driving at night. I'm using Marchal relays left over from when the car used to 100w hi and 100w low bulbs in each light( they had separate low and hi bulbs in each). They are controlled by the stock hi/low relay. Not sure if I could justify the cost to change with what I have now and how little I drive at night. They also seem to put out plenty of light.

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