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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:36 am    Post subject: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

hey,

i bought recently a seatframe for my 67 walk through, bechaus the bottom of the passenger side was not correct when i purchased the car.

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i purchased it over Evam, item Looks nice, but if you want to use it, the springs are not nearly the same as on a original seatbase....

the Problem is, it is relly sloppy, so if you take a seat you will fall right to the walktrough area....

anyone else same experience?


what i did now is, i used and old seatframe and added 25springs to the Repro, and now it works as it should...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

Crazy, what are you supposed to do just look at it? You sit down and it tosses you off. Sounds like a comedy skit for tv. That could be very funny but not when you need it to be a good seat.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

Red Fau Veh wrote:
Crazy, what are you supposed to do just look at it? You sit down and it tosses you off. Sounds like a comedy skit for tv. That could be very funny but not when you need it to be a good seat.


Yes Sounds funny, but after i Took a seat.....my smile was lost.... it Feels like sitting on a Ball ....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

Are the springs attached directly to the bottom tubular frame? They should be attached to a flat metal frame then to the tubular frame.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

Hmmm, that is a bummer they didn't make them the same as an original.

There are some photos of originals in the Gallery if people want to compare:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_keywords=passenger+walk-thru+seat
If you scroll down a little I posted some good photos of my original Green seat.
My original
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

Seems downright dangerous! The seat base really needs to be unitized through cross bracing to keep it all intact. I always heard/used the term "spring pack" as the comfort/support part of the frame and the frame itself basically just provides the bones on which the spring pack rides. Without them being properly braced, the frame stays attached to the car in an accident- and the spring pack gives too much- likely allowing a passenger to possibly "submarine" their seatbelt.

I bet it's hell on upholstery. Sorry to be so critical- but I'm glad you improved it with your additional work. Great report on this frame.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

CaLiBus wrote:
Are the springs attached directly to the bottom tubular frame? They should be attached to a flat metal frame then to the tubular frame.


no, the springs are atached to a metal Frame, and the metal Frame is sitting on the seatbase...same style as original, but to less springs :-/
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

hitest wrote:
Seems downright dangerous! The seat base really needs to be unitized through cross bracing to keep it all intact. I always heard/used the term "spring pack" as the comfort/support part of the frame and the frame itself basically just provides the bones on which the spring pack rides. Without them being properly braced, the frame stays attached to the car in an accident- and the spring pack gives too much- likely allowing a passenger to possibly "submarine" their seatbelt.

I bet it's hell on upholstery. Sorry to be so critical- but I'm glad you improved it with your additional work. Great report on this frame.


absolute correct... the improvement was the only way to make it safe and Keep the passenger on the seat.... if i had the choice, i would buy an original ....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

oval56 wrote:
CaLiBus wrote:
Are the springs attached directly to the bottom tubular frame? They should be attached to a flat metal frame then to the tubular frame.


no, the springs are atached to a metal Frame, and the metal Frame is sitting on the seatbase...same style as original, but to less springs :-/


I sent Evam the link to this thread. I'm sure he will get it resolved.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

Hello,
Thank you for the feedback, we will discuss this problem with our seat company and will keep you posted about this.

When we have remodeled this seat, we will post a update.

Sorry for the inconvinience.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: quality EVAM walk through seat reproductions Reply with quote

EVAM CLASSIC wrote:
Hello,
Thank you for the feedback, we will discuss this problem with our seat company and will keep you posted about this.

When we have remodeled this seat, we will post a update.

Sorry for the inconvinience.

Etienne
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thanks for the update, would be fine if there will follow an update.

the main Focus should be the area of the left side to the walk through section and the rear edge
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