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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:00 pm    Post subject: Stumped Reply with quote

So......I bought this beetle from a guy that rebuit the engine & I'm wondering if he installed the distributor correctly??
Went to adjust the valves & so
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

Does the engine run "OK" ? Unless you absolutely know, TDC #1 is when the crankshaft pulley notch is pointing straight up at the engine case seam AND both valves for cylinder #1 are closed. THEN you can determine if all else is OK.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

He probably put the distributor drive in 180 out and had to compensate. But the vacuum canister is in the correct place. So maybe something else is up. How does it run?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

Runs fine
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

The plug wires don't care. As long as TDC compression lines up and the rotor points to the #1 plug and the rest are 4-3-2 CW your good.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

NJ John wrote:
He probably put the distributor drive in 180 out and had to compensate. But the vacuum canister is in the correct place. So maybe something else is up. How does it run?
How does the vacuum can have anything to do with it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

I’ve seen the complete distributor turned 180, and the vacuum can ends up awkwardly on the backside. Or some just move all the wires.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

NJ John wrote:
I’ve seen the complete distributor turned 180, and the vacuum can ends up awkwardly on the backside. Or some just move all the wires.
I have seen some that the stubbornness of the user wouldn't allow not lining up the rotor with the notch in the body. Unless you have a #3 retard distributor it makes no difference.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

It’s all how you comprehend and approach what is going on after you discover that something is wrong after a rebuild.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

My guesses…
    1) The PO installed the distributor drive gear (located below the distributor) incorrectly. There is a specific orientation for this 12-tooth gear when installed into the case. Install it off by a few teeth and the rotor will no longer point in the direction the factory designed it to point; resulting in #1 plug wire being in some odd location around the cap.

    2) The distributor is not original to a Beetle. VW Type2 and Type3 distributors will drop right into a Type1 engine but the rotor may point to a different spot around the cap.


Key idea to take away… the engine needs the rotor to point to the distributor cap post where the #1 spark plug wire is installed when the #1 cylinder is at TDC at the end of the compression stroke. So it can deliver a spark to the cylinder when needed. The same applies to all 4 cylinders. Where the wires are located around the cap is less critical.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Stumped Reply with quote

ashman40 wrote:
My guesses…
    1) The PO installed the distributor drive gear (located below the distributor) incorrectly. There is a specific orientation for this 12-tooth gear when installed into the case. Install it off by a few teeth and the rotor will no longer point in the direction the factory designed it to point; resulting in #1 plug wire being in some odd location around the cap.

    2) The distributor is not original to a Beetle. VW Type2 and Type3 distributors will drop right into a Type1 engine but the rotor may point to a different spot around the cap.


Key idea to take away… the engine needs the rotor to point to the distributor cap post where the #1 spark plug wire is installed when the #1 cylinder is at TDC at the end of the compression stroke. So it can deliver a spark to the cylinder when needed. The same applies to all 4 cylinders. Where the wires are located around the cap is less critical.
"less critical" should be (not critical) unless you have a retarded #3 then it should read (is critical)
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