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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian

Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: Front Door Hinges |
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Guys
I did a search, but I could not find a specific answer to my simple question.
What is the best way to remove the front door hinge pins?
I aquired a passenger side mirror that I wish to install, but I want to be clear on pin removal before I start beating on it like a mad man.
Thanks
 _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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vwjosh6070 Driveway Camper

Joined: August 24, 2003 Posts: 2802 Location: not camping...
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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i just drilled the pin out.... but make sure you go in straight! (ask me what happens). i ended up having to change the hinge out because it got drilled. with the new hinge i got, it also had a pin in it, i just heated it up, put crap loads of some armorall lube stuff, and got a pointed chisel like thingie and beat the pin out with a hammer. good luck on it. _________________ josh, AKA "the infamous josh"
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****Wheres my old bus?! 1967 Montgomery Ward Camper****
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member

Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously, the easiest way is with an air hammer...
It made real easy work of it!  _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian

Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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My next door neighbour (bless his soul) has an air chisel and air. We can load a drift into the air chisel.
So do we just line up the drift and beat it up and out?
That easy (and that tough?) _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member

Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about an air chisel, but if you have an attachment that is smaller than the size of the pin, then I'd go for it.
When I did mine, I took my door off and turned it over. Then put the hinge in a vice and let 'er rip...
Good Luck! _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
(T)exas (C)oalition (B)uses
(H)eidenhammer (B)ully (B)oyz
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian

Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the sage advice!
Tomorrow night, we drift!!
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BryanM Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2002 Posts: 4212 Location: Concord/Charlotte NC
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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soak the hinge with penetrating oil. I use Marvel Mystery oil.
I removed my door and placed the hinge on a block before hammering the pin out. that way I lessened the chance of loosinging the hinge where it mounts to the door. _________________ -Bryan
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dstefun Samba Member

Joined: February 20, 2002 Posts: 3338 Location: Sacratomato
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Start with lots of Kroil, WD-40, or your favorite rust zapper. Soak, soak, and soak some more. If keeping the paint is not a problem, apply heat (such as propane torch) to the hinge. On mine I ground off the head of the old hinge pin (zapped part of the paint too ) so I had a flat surface, pounded it down about 1/16" with a nice new flat punch, soaked it some more, and then pounded it up from the bottom. Repeated that a few times and it finally came right out. Damn tight! Lots of noise, the neighbors love it! Air hammer would have been a plus! It comes out the top due to the knurling at the top of the pin, don't try to hammer it down and out if you grind off the head. Good luck!! -mas: |
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ToolBox Samba Member

Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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An old fuel pump push rod work pretty damn good. On my 59 I soaked the hinge for a week and the pin came out rather easy with a 20oz ball pein. |
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derv Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2005 Posts: 2601 Location: Oak Park (Chicago), IL
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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ToolBox wrote: |
An old fuel pump push rod work pretty damn good. On my 59 I soaked the hinge for a week and the pin came out rather easy with a 20oz ball pein. |
Older post...but lemmie get this straight.
I am adding a pass side mirror on the Kombi, it currently has a hinge pin in it.
So I should soak it, then hammer at it with a drift from the underside of the hinge and hammer the pin out the top? _________________ Jack
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian

Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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You can do it that way, but an air chisel with a drift is really the way to go. When I did mine (at the time of this post) it took a couple seconds with the air chisel, no smacked knuckles, no missed swings, it was quick and painless. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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derv Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2005 Posts: 2601 Location: Oak Park (Chicago), IL
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a body shop right across the street, so I guess I will bug them for a few dollars to get that sucka out for me with a chisel.
Thanks! _________________ Jack
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian

Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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derv wrote: |
I've got a body shop right across the street, so I guess I will bug them for a few dollars to get that sucka out for me with a chisel.
Thanks! |
Well, air chisel as the tool, but with a small drift for an attachment. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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slow36hp scott wimberley

Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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Major Woody Samba Enigma

Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9016 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Removed ours in place with Kroil, a long drift and a mini-sledgehammer, in order to install mirror arms. It worked better to get them moving with the hammer and drift, and then finish the job with the air hammer. The problem with the air hammer is that things happen fast when you hit the trigger, and you stand a very good chance of air-hammering the hinge body or part of the door. After the pin starts moving, then there is a cavity there to keep the air hammer drift from bouncing around. |
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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3081 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you have access to a MIG, I'm telling you, weld a bead on the top of that pin. Then, it will slide right out with a drift! Easy as pie. _________________
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slow36hp scott wimberley

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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3081 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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slow36hp wrote: |
arthurnugen wrote: |
If you have access to a MIG, I'm telling you, weld a bead on the top of that pin. Then, it will slide right out with a drift! Easy as pie. |
very cool idea does it get hot enough to mess up the hinge paint |
Yes, a little, but you have to be careful! A lot of indiscriminate pounding with a drift or hammer will screw up the paint, too. Spray it with your favorite penetrant, wait a day, weld a (small) bead, and pound it! _________________
cdennisg wrote: |
Lawyers don't deserve buses. |
zozo wrote: |
Don't worry too much. You can always trust a lawyer. |
ALWAYS WEAR STEEL-TOE BOOTS IN THE GARAGE!
1965 Bus (Riviera camper)
1972 Bug 'vert
1967 Bug sunroof
1961 Ghia 'vert
1957 DKW 3=6: 3 cylinder 2 stroke! |
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Chick Iverson Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I took mine to a local body shop and they knocked out the pin in seconds for a ten spot..........EZ _________________ '59 Euro convertible--'56 type 2 double door panel w/Chick Iverson logo-....2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do! |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52707 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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An air hammer is probably the best solution but make sure you back it up with something heavy, otherwise you move the pin and the hinge too, very bad. 2-3 feet of 3/4' water pipe would make a good bucking bar to hold firmly against the opposite end of the hinge from the hammer. |
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