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Hardrocker Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:32 am

Bruce wrote: Did you look at the list of trans numbers in the link in the second post of this topic?

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2207973#2207973

I have looked at this link and don't find any reference to transmission or transaxle numbers. I have a transmission that is stamped 1086828 and am trying to determine its year of manufacture.

Hardrocker Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:33 am

Bruce wrote: Did you look at the list of trans numbers in the link in the second post of this topic?

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2207973#2207973

Axle numbers?

MrGoodtunes Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:56 pm

Hardrocker wrote: Bruce wrote: Did you look at the list of trans numbers in the link in the second post of this topic?

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2207973#2207973

Axle numbers?
Yes (after all, bug trans is actually a trans-axle).

Ghoster Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:49 am

I hate to be that guy, but well, I am usually that guy. For a few years I have been working on a 1972 beetle. Didn’t run when I got it, but was a good starter project. Anyway, I have reached the transaxle. The guy I bought it from had a second transaxle. He said he had stripped some parts out of a 69. Anyway, trying to figure out if the one I pulled out of the car is original ( or possibly original based on build date), and what the second transaxle even is. I trued using the charts, but didn’t see any matches for sure. I figure it is better to get good guidance than just guess.🤷🏻‍♂️ Any help in identifying these is greatly appreciated!!!

Part# 113 301 103 J
Serial# AH4372310

And

Part# 113 301 103 D
Serial# 9903471





Nate RS Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:55 am

The one starting with 99 would be from the late ‘60’s timeframe. The other one later but no clue when. I have a pair of ‘67 trannys starting with 986 and 987 , both from cars built in December ‘66. 99xxxxx would only be 100000 or so later. At the rate these were built I can’t believe yours came long after them.

Ghoster Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:06 am

Nate RS wrote: The one starting with 99 would be from the late ‘60’s timeframe. The other one later but no clue when. I have a pair of ‘67 trannys starting with 986 and 987 , both from cars built in December ‘66. 99xxxxx would only be 100000 or so later. At the rate these were built I can’t believe yours came long after them.



Thanks!!

Now another question has come up. Got my transaxle mostly cleaned up. 4lbs or tar came off of it. The nose cone doesn’t appear to be a 1972 original. At least it doesn’t look like the pictures I have found. It has 2 electrical sensors/switches on it. One is the reverse light trigger. I have no clue what the other one is. It is on the side of the nose cone opposite from the light switch. It has a single spade electrical connection. Nothing was plugged in to it when I removed the transaxle.

Any ideas?






Nate RS Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:46 pm

The likely candidates are reverse and neutral safety (for starting).

Ghoster Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:24 am

Nate RS wrote: The likely candidates are reverse and neutral safety (for starting).


Thats what I thought. It even seems to momentarily trigger in neutral. The 2 problems I have is that all the neutral safety switches I see have 3 terminals, not one, and I can’t find any reference to a manual transmission ever having a neutral safety switch. Is it possible that this is a nose cone for an auto stick?

Bruce Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 pm

The 3 terminal switches are from an Autostick trans. Your nose cone is for a manual trans. The nose cone for an autostick is different and does not work on a 4 speed.

olo Sat May 07, 2022 2:24 am

Number 8721009 , would that be 1966 1300 beetle box? And if it is would it ‘fit’ into 56 oval beetle with standard 1600cc case? Thanks in advance

mrmeharry Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:10 pm

I need to Id this tranny on a buggy project I just got

48
113.301.103
H

AB 13 03 3

Appreciate it

DennisD Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:41 am

Good Morning Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has a transaxle ID Chart. I have been referred to two placed (outside of here) and they both have resulted in two different answers.

The closest "guess" was by my local VW transaxle builder. He thinks it is late 60's / early 70's.

It is an IRS style Transaxle.

Here is a link to my listing.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/347946217640729

I am selling it because I no longer have the project.

My Numbers are : AO927118

There is no T/O bearing sleeve mounted on the input shaft cover.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,


Dennis D

wapatooie Sun May 12, 2024 5:01 pm

I am looking for verification. I was told that I have a 66 or newer transaxle. After looking at the rear axle numbers in the technical section, it would appear that it is a 50 model. number is 232006
I want to get the right book before I tear it apart to see why it is making the noise that it is when driving. I can't spin the tires by hand more than 1.5 revolutions either way.


1950
Jan 1-0144 319 1-0176 032 154 644 152 939 151 870 93 558
Feb 1-0149 883 1-0182 051 160 805 158 549 157 640 98 979
Mar 1-0156 683 1-0189 501 168 255 165 431 164 676 105 664
Apr 1-0162 448 1-0196 053 174 872 171 274 170 759 111 331
May 1-0169 063 1-0203 321 182 142 178 027 177 537 117 821
Jun 1-0176 987 1-0212 397 191 321 185 952 185 741 125 425
Jul 1-0182 236 1-0217 562 196 183 190 254 190 195 129 573
Aug 1-0189 755 1-0227 925 206 939 198 831 199 070 137 901
Sep 1-0197 738 1-0237 607 216 847 206 666 207 075 145 182
Oct 1-0205 956 1-0247 840 226 969 215 193 215 710 153 826
Nov 1-0213 957 1-0257 818 237 027 223 346 223 774 161 755

Bruce Sun May 19, 2024 10:50 am

Your trans is definitely not 1950. The case is 1961 or later.
You are missing a digit in the trans number to the left of the first 2. Scrape away the paint to reveal the number.

John Ghia Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:50 pm



I’m trying to I’d this tans, any help will be appreciated.

32
113.301.103
D

0082838

I’m guessing late 1967-1968 but I’m not sure.

mukluk Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:41 pm

John Ghia wrote: 0082838

I’m guessing late 1967-1968 but I’m not sure.
Originally from a Type 3 made in September 1962.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/serialnumberst3.php

What it is now is anybody's guess without firsthand inspection. Similar to VW engines, transaxles have some interchangeability between types and there's a decent chance they've been rebuilt a time or two in the past half century.

Bruce Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:04 am

mukluk wrote: John Ghia wrote: 0082838

I’m guessing late 1967-1968 but I’m not sure.
Originally from a Type 3 made in September 1962.

Definitely not 1962. See the part number? A "D" case first appeared around 1965.

This trans is from late 67 or 68. The serial number of the trans is limited to 7 digits. When they rolled past trans number 9999999, the next one was 0000000 since they didn't have room for the 8th digit (being a 1 in front of all the zeros).

mukluk Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:01 am

Bruce wrote: Definitely not 1962. See the part number? A "D" case first appeared around 1965.

This trans is from late 67 or 68. The serial number of the trans is limited to 7 digits. When they rolled past trans number 9999999, the next one was 0000000 since they didn't have room for the 8th digit (being a 1 in front of all the zeros).
Proves my theory that the best way to get the right answer is to post up the wrong one. :wink:

I did try to narrow it down by the part number, but couldn't find any conclusive info as to the timeframe the D suffix came about. Thanks for the correction.

Busstom Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:26 pm

mukluk wrote: Bruce wrote: Definitely not 1962...This trans is from late 67 or 68.
Proves my theory that the best way to get the right answer is to post up the wrong one. :wink:
Works every time, don't it? :D

John Ghia Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:34 pm

Thanks for the conformation Bruce.



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