TheSamba.com :: View topic - Homemade Turbo 1600 Single Port recipe, DYNO'ED, NOW T3/T4!!

Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:22 am

That is a quote from the original poster of this thread.

MoLooker hasn't posted in quite some time. It was an interesting build.

This thread was hi-jacked by a completely different turbo build so that has no bearing to what has been discussed in the last year.

Last I read MO was not running the engine in his buggy anymore.

Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:59 am

great thread, with tons of info. thank you to all the ones who keep taking the time to post up the details. its appreciated

Thu May 30, 2013 6:12 am

MO Turbo Manx wrote: bigpapakamen wrote: how did you run the oil lines

I used one of the basic tapped oil pump covers for supply to the turbo.
The turbo drainback goes to a nipple I welded to the 3/4 valve cover.

It's performed flawlessly.

Do you have any pictures off the turbo oil lines? Of so can you post them or pm them to me? Very interested!!

Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:28 pm

BUMP!!!

Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:42 pm

Joel Mohr wrote: BUMP!!!

Was that it for your turbo kits? I dont see them for sale anymore.

Any track slips on the 1.9 build?

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:28 pm

I have them in stock... I sell through my shop. Never did get the 1915 to the track, but it should easily be in the 12s.

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:09 am

....and how do we find said shop?

Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:32 pm

Mohr Performance, 760-947-6647 I'm in Hesperia, Cal.

Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:16 am

Question for Joel. I did a Junk yard turbo build in 2005ish. I was very inexperienced, and 19, so please no flaming for the stupidness that occurred. But here the back story to set up the question.

I pulled apart a 74 DP 1600 in order to build a big motor and learn about building a motor, fast forward 3 months and the motor in my DD 68 Ghia crapped out so I went down bought a set of mahle 87mm, put them back in the short block, because thats as far as I got in the tear down. Torqued the heads back on. No one told me about setting deck height, or anything like that, anyways. I drove it like that with dual lads, until I saw a buggy running around with a turbo, and thought, "how hard could it be."

I used an IHI turbo from an old ford escort GT internally waste gated, rigged a fuel pump to move water to a transmission cooler because the turbo is water cooled, used a "full flow" oil pump cover to send oil to the filter then the cooler then t'd to the turbo and back to the pump cover. Then ran radiator hose to the stock 34 PICT carb and intake and clamped it down, I didn't have a blow valve so I figured it'd burst at 14 LBS and I could just drive home with no boost. I was running a 009 and just retarded it to 25* total advance.

First time I started her it sounded as if it was trying to spool at idle, but I had nothing after the turbo. Took it around the block and it spooled at 1500 and pulled hard from 2000 to 6000 and I pulled my foot out of it. A few days later I held my foot to 6500, the a week or so 7000. I know that sounds crazy for stock valve springs, but it did it. Fast forward 6 month of reliable daily driving I decided to see how far I pouch the speedo needle. I got on the freeway and skinny pedal to the floor in 3rd shifted at 6000 and the needle pointed straight down and into 4th foot to the floor, at about 5500 and the needle firmly on the rest on the other side, it was started cutting out not getting enough gas.

So long story short and the question, is that single Kad enough for the top end? How much are you spinning the motors to?

Thanks
Joe

Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:01 pm

I too am running a turbo single port 1600 in a manx. Its been about 4 years since it was put together and it's still running strong. I did a blow through with a 36 delloto drla. I used one of the turbos on a dodge stealth (or Mitsubishi 300gt) and I'm running 10psi on 91 pump gas. Dyno'd at 100hp and about 102 ft lbs of torque at the wheels. All internals are stock except for the Schneider turbo cam. the heads are dual spring, stock valve, stock rockers, with a bit of a clean up port on the exhaust side.

Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:22 am

manxguy60 wrote: I too am running a turbo single port 1600 in a manx. Its been about 4 years since it was put together and it's still running strong. I did a blow through with a 36 delloto drla. I used one of the turbos on a dodge stealth (or Mitsubishi 300gt) and I'm running 10psi on 91 pump gas. Dyno'd at 100hp and about 102 ft lbs of torque at the wheels. All internals are stock except for the Schneider turbo cam. the heads are dual spring, stock valve, stock rockers, with a bit of a clean up port on the exhaust side.

Hi, do you have a plenum under the carb or is it individual runner type manifold ?

Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:54 pm

bergfan wrote: manxguy60 wrote: I too am running a turbo single port 1600 in a manx. Its been about 4 years since it was put together and it's still running strong. I did a blow through with a 36 delloto drla. I used one of the turbos on a dodge stealth (or Mitsubishi 300gt) and I'm running 10psi on 91 pump gas. Dyno'd at 100hp and about 102 ft lbs of torque at the wheels. All internals are stock except for the Schneider turbo cam. the heads are dual spring, stock valve, stock rockers, with a bit of a clean up port on the exhaust side.

Hi, do you have a plenum under the carb or is it individual runner type manifold ?

It's an IDF type plenum

Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:08 pm

Great Read!

Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:44 pm

Sweet read, would the turbo designs work on a dual port 1600 beetle? Or would i have to change something ??

Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:13 am

Your gonna 'change' a lot of things :lol:
Yea a 1600 will work :wink: check out this,, their's a 1600 that runs 10' in the 1/4 8) 8) 8)
www.shoptalkforums.com forced induction forums :wink:

Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:14 am

I'm about to buy a 74 super. After avidly reading all 24 pages of this thread, it seems like boost would offer the best bang for the buck to wake this car up and easily bring it in the 110-120 hp range. Does anyone know if Joel Mohr still sells his kit? I looked into Lowbugget's but at 2700$ and with all the negative reviews on their turnaround times, I'm not so hot about them.

Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:54 pm

Yes, I still sell kits...1800.00

Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:43 pm

Thank you Joel, I'm still educating myself on what would be required aside from the kit, what it means in terms of fine-tuning. I also have to determine what I can do on my own and what I have to outsource to have a better idea of global costs. But it is good news that your kit is still available.

Thu May 12, 2016 8:34 am

*BUMP*

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:09 am

Just thought I'd update what has happened with our kits....I built a 1600 SINGLE port, all stock, and the first set of pulls it made 170 TQ, and 139 HP at 11 psi with a measly T25 with a 49 ex housing and a 48 compressor housing...on pump gas....with race gas and more boost, I'm sure I could confirm the original posters findings....amazing...