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bigvwhead Sun May 02, 2010 12:01 pm

I meet Bob & Sue at RussFest and from what I saw she good with it.

my wife is suportive of my VW habit only if theres a horse involved :roll:



P.S. I'll take every littel bit of horse power I can get :lol:

Suesanctuary Sun May 02, 2010 1:11 pm

Woreign wrote: What does your wife think of the new project? I know she has helped you A LOT on your other cars!

My wife is supportive of my habit, but she doesn't participate any. Maybe I can get my daughter interested? She's only 4, so maybe in 10 years or so...

In our youth, I used to hate how much time he spent working out in the the garage. (At first more out of necessity, than as a hobby.) Yeah, I know a little cheese with your whine... :-({|=

But as we've matured, I've watched (first as a "go-fer," then as a helper-installing glass, hanging doors, rough sanding, ect.) as he honed his automotive skills, both with the mechanical and body work. It was a way to spend more time with him. Afterall, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." :lol:

It still amazes me to see him bring an old car back to life, and it's nice to say I helped out, at least a little bit.

So I don't mind his newest project, and I'll help with the "roughing it in part," but just stand back and watch when it gets down to the nitty-gritty details part. As he's a bit of a perfectionist, ya' know.

Russ Wolfe Sun May 02, 2010 1:30 pm

I personally know how hard Sue works to help with his cars.
Due to my health problems, she outworked me by 100%


Bobnotch Sun May 02, 2010 4:42 pm

Yeah, she definitely supports my hobby, even helps when I need it. Take last night for example, she came out and started chipping at the bondo without even being asked. I was out there working on Krunchy at the time (wet sanding), and she wanted to start working on "Wolfie" (the t-34's new name, sorry Russ, but it bit her, so it got named). No fleas or ticks, but it had plenty of worms. :wink: She got rid of most of the "worms", then I helped her get rid of the rest. She's the one who removed the bondo flakes and chunks, except that piece that just fell out while I was working in another area. She was just playing out there, having some fun, and doing a little work at the same time. Some of her facial expressions were priceless when a bigger chunk of bondo would go flying. :lol: It's a good thing I made her wear safety glasses, since the bondo was flying everywhere.

roverjosh Sun May 02, 2010 7:36 pm

Woreign,

My wife is the same way. But I already have my 4 year tinkering with me on the VW. I think it is safe to say that Bob's wife helps out quite a bit.

I wish I could get my wife interested in sanding and tinkering, etc......

Have fun Bob and Sue.....

Suesanctuary Sun May 02, 2010 7:41 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Due to my health problems, she outworked me by 100%.

The whole idea was to make life easier for you and Marilyn. Still didn't manage to get everything that we wanted to get done, but we put a world of hurt to it. :D At least this year, we got everything back into the shop that we took out and then some! Hopefully organized well enough for you to find everything. Which is mainly why we took so many photos, a sort of video file.

Thank You, again, Russ, for having us! Always a pleasure. Hope you got all those leftovers eaten up. Marilyn made sure we all got our fill and then some! Thank You Marilyn!

Tram Sun May 02, 2010 8:44 pm

Bobnotch wrote: Yeah, she definitely supports my hobby, even helps when I need it. Take last night for example, she came out and started chipping at the bondo without even being asked. I was out there working on Krunchy at the time (wet sanding), and she wanted to start working on "Wolfie" (the t-34's new name, sorry Russ, but it bit her, so it got named). No fleas or ticks, but it had plenty of worms. :wink: She got rid of most of the "worms", then I helped her get rid of the rest. She's the one who removed the bondo flakes and chunks, except that piece that just fell out while I was working in another area. She was just playing out there, having some fun, and doing a little work at the same time. Some of her facial expressions were priceless when a bigger chunk of bondo would go flying. :lol: It's a good thing I made her wear safety glasses, since the bondo was flying everywhere.

You don't trust her with a propane torch?

notchboy Mon May 03, 2010 6:25 am

Wow, you actualy did it Russ. I didnt think you would. I cant think of a better home though. Bob has a great tallent for bringing bashed bits back to life.

Stay the coarse Bob-the 1500 club whould love to fold you into the ranks :wink: I think alot of the front nose plow look is: yeah even drivable-they look like that, the front wheel arches are higher than the rears. My 64 has that same look so I may have to drop it a click or raise the rear.

Exciting to see this thread. I know well see some good stuff comming out of your guys garage. Sue your going to love this car when done! That is if Bob gets out of it long enough for you to drive :wink:

stvwguy Mon May 03, 2010 7:25 am

Quote: It also looks like there were 2 different antenna locations in the left front fender that got brazed over. I'll investigate that later.



I believe it was on the 1500 blog (forgive me i don't remember who writes it) That the author found a complete orginal radio for the type 34. It came with template (a piece of paper with the body lines marked on it) for locating the antenna correctly. He had a full sized pdf posted for some time so that anyone could use it and get the antenna located correctly.

I will be following your thread closely as I am finally getting in the position to begin working on my early 64 type 34 (push button). It was a crappy 80's resto that was converted to 4 lug, but a relatively rust free car. However, i paid way too much for it. And as notchboy can tell you (i met him in san antonio) it really isnt in the best state right now. But the good news is, thanks to the generosity of many -including notchboy- i was able to get a donor with a solid nose and hood and i even sold the roof. I plan on fully rebuilding it down to the pans. Seeing someone else tackle a similar sized project is inspiring to say the least. Now if i could only get my wife to help me! All in due time i suppose :)

Bobnotch Mon May 03, 2010 8:50 pm

notchboy wrote: Wow, you actualy did it Russ. I didnt think you would. I cant think of a better home though. Bob has a great tallent for bringing bashed bits back to life.

Stay the coarse Bob-the 1500 club whould love to fold you into the ranks :wink: I think alot of the front nose plow look is: yeah even drivable-they look like that, the front wheel arches are higher than the rears. My 64 has that same look so I may have to drop it a click or raise the rear.

Exciting to see this thread. I know well see some good stuff comming out of your guys garage. Sue your going to love this car when done! That is if Bob gets out of it long enough for you to drive :wink:

Yes he did, he actually did it. We worked out a deal late last fall, but I didn't say anything, and neither did Russ. Thank you for the compliments Jason, and you're right, it did go to a good home. 8)

I personally think it's the shocks, as they've been extended for the last 6 years, and that'll mess with'em. They're still OE shocks as far as I know.
Jason, my plan is to restore it back to the 41,600miles it currently has. If that means redoing the front clip, or the entire car, so be it. I personally want to keep this car as original as I can. I've been seriously thinking about compounding the rear of the car, and then color matching the front to it. Does that make it 1500 club status? I don't know, and I don't care, as long as I know what's there, that's what counts. I actually want to drive it (which means make it as safe as a 46 year old car can be), as I've never driven a type 3 with that low of miles. Sue has, when she driove Ron Mann's "late" creame puff Square back from the 2004 T-3 Invasion. I want to experience that at least once.

Right now, about 75 to 90% of the car is still OE, and I'd like to keep that. Scott (t3kg) has given me some t-34 info that I didn't know about, and is kind of schooling me on the ownership of a t-34, let a lone a pre-65 one. Thanks Scott, I appreciate it. I mean I'm not new to t-3's, but t-34's are a whole 'nuther animal. They're just different enough.

notchboy wrote: My 64 has that same look so I may have to drop it a click or raise the rear.
WOW, did I actually hear that from the president/founder of the 1500 club? :shock: Now I know it's a little to high (I was thinking 1 spline too high), but it still doesn't have the spare tire or a full tank of gas in it either. :roll:

I don't know how quick anything is going to happen yet. We're just scratching the surface. I do know the metal work will go quick, but it's the little bits and pieces that I still need to finish it that'll take time. I don't want to post a wanted list here, for fear of locking this thread, but I just need a couple of front ends bits (a head light ring for sure, and the turn signal lenses :wink:). I'll document as I go with it. It might not be the correct way, but the car has already had some work done to it. That's why I was hoping I didn't bum you out using the Thing rims and tires.

But then I guess it'll be time to retrain her on how to drive a stick (it's been over 20 years for her). Who knows, she might like it. :roll:

Bobnotch Mon May 03, 2010 9:22 pm

stvwguy wrote: Quote: It also looks like there were 2 different antenna locations in the left front fender that got brazed over. I'll investigate that later.



I believe it was on the 1500 blog (forgive me i don't remember who writes it) That the author found a complete orginal radio for the type 34. It came with template (a piece of paper with the body lines marked on it) for locating the antenna correctly. He had a full sized pdf posted for some time so that anyone could use it and get the antenna located correctly.

I will be following your thread closely as I am finally getting in the position to begin working on my early 64 type 34 (push button). It was a crappy 80's resto that was converted to 4 lug, but a relatively rust free car. However, i paid way too much for it. And as notchboy can tell you (i met him in san antonio) it really isnt in the best state right now. But the good news is, thanks to the generosity of many -including notchboy- i was able to get a donor with a solid nose and hood and i even sold the roof. I plan on fully rebuilding it down to the pans. Seeing someone else tackle a similar sized project is inspiring to say the least. Now if i could only get my wife to help me! All in due time i suppose :)
Mine is just the opposite, but in similar shape. It was crash damaged in 1968, then pulled from a field in 2004, then it sat on a cart for the last 6 years. Since 2004, it had floors and the current front clip installed, along with the engine rebuilt ("0" miles on it; no run time). It did come with a dealer installed radio(Sapphire Bendix). But that's it (other than the 6 volt radio suppression equipment). Unfortuately, there's no actual hole for an antenna, so one will have to go somewhere. :roll: This one's a PB car too, so that'll be a learning experience for me too (used to late models). But at least everything else is mostly OE, never been messed with. 8)

I can't help you with your wife, as I've just got one of the good ones. 8) You have to hang on to them as long as you can. :D

Bobnotch Mon May 03, 2010 9:30 pm

Tram wrote:
You don't trust her with a propane torch?

I was trying to keep the dust to a minimum (getting ready to clear coat). the chunks and flakes didn't bother me too much, as they sank to the floor after a little bit. Dust however would have settled over everything. Didn't need that. Otherwise I would have handed her a DA.

Oh, and Rover, we'll try and have fun. :wink:

Tram Mon May 03, 2010 10:01 pm

Bobnotch wrote: Tram wrote:
You don't trust her with a propane torch?

I was trying to keep the dust to a minimum (getting ready to clear coat). the chunks and flakes didn't bother me too much, as they sank to the floor after a little bit. Dust however would have settled over everything. Didn't need that. Otherwise I would have handed her a DA.

Oh, and Rover, we'll try and have fun. :wink:

Heat it and scrape it. Wear a respirator, no dust involved. Just ghastly fumes.

Bobnotch Mon May 03, 2010 10:09 pm

[quote="Tram"][quote="Bobnotch"] Tram wrote:
You don't trust her with a propane torch?

Heat it and scrape it. Wear a respirator, no dust involved. Just ghastly fumes.

Hey, she came out on her own, and just wanted to do something. I wasn't set up for that, as I was working on a different car. :shock: I just let her "play". It saved me from having to remove it. :D

Tram Mon May 03, 2010 10:13 pm

[quote="Bobnotch"][quote="Tram"] Bobnotch wrote: Tram wrote:
You don't trust her with a propane torch?

Heat it and scrape it. Wear a respirator, no dust involved. Just ghastly fumes.

Hey, she came out on her own, and just wanted to do something. I wasn't set up for that, as I was working on a different car. :shock: I just let her "play". It saved me from having to remove it. :D

It's all good. :lol: Someday, I'll tell you how many bottles of propane it took to get my Type 34s body lines back. Hint: I thought it was lowered...

Pierre G Tue May 04, 2010 12:07 am

Bobnotch wrote:

I personally think it's the shocks, as they've been extended for the last 6 years, and that'll mess with'em. They're still OE shocks as far as I know.


Certainly this. And probably the rear got tired with all the weight of the mechanics on it, without moving for so long. With new rear torsion arm bushings, shocks, moving around,...the rear should raise a bit and level the car more. This and the spare wheel and gas in the tank like you said...and it should be all good.

Very cool project 8)

RAIDER SS Tue May 04, 2010 9:43 am

Good ‘ol VW’s find their owners....and it looks like “Wolfie” has found a good home :D

Congrats to Bob, Sue, and Wolfie!!!

Tram Tue May 04, 2010 12:13 pm

RAIDER SS wrote: Good ‘ol VW’s find their owners....and it looks like “Wolfie” has found a good home :D

Congrats to Bob, Sue, and Wolfie!!!

Isn't it actually pronounced "Woofie" in the Midwest? :D

Bobnotch Tue May 04, 2010 3:05 pm

RAIDER SS wrote: Good ‘ol VW’s find their owners....and it looks like “Wolfie” has found a good home :D

Congrats to Bob, Sue, and Wolfie!!!

I thought so too Dave, and this one certainly needs some help. If owning a "late" Fastback, and 2 Notchbacks aren't enough, now we've got a t-34 to add to the odd car collection. :wink:

Bobnotch Tue May 04, 2010 3:13 pm

Pierre G wrote: Bobnotch wrote:

I personally think it's the shocks, as they've been extended for the last 6 years, and that'll mess with'em. They're still OE shocks as far as I know.


Certainly this. And probably the rear got tired with all the weight of the mechanics on it, without moving for so long. With new rear torsion arm bushings, shocks, moving around,...the rear should raise a bit and level the car more. This and the spare wheel and gas in the tank like you said...and it should be all good.

Very cool project 8)

Well that would explain the front, but the rear was also in the unloaded position for the last 6 years, and it's already settled into place. Of course it might have been the extra weight in the rear, that the front doesn't normally carry. I really think it just needs to get excercised, since the long hibernation. I might have given it a shakedown on the ride back, but it might not have been enough.

Tram, I'll try the torch method when we go out to work on it some more. I've mainly been working on trying to get the 71 Notch buttoned up, so it'll be ready for the Invasion in 6 weeks.



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