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das20v Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:58 pm

Hi guys, I am doing a ground-up scale model project on an early (1950~1952) Panel Barndoor (check back often for progress). I will do a 3D print in 1/16th scale and then strip it down to cast copies in resin/vacu-form and photo-etch.

So far, I would like to thank the following individuals for measurements/dimensions, I couldn't do it without your help:

Capriacci
RockStock
2Pack
Gustav Petri
Carl L.

Also thanks for everyones input, it keeps me inspired. Please let me if I forgot YOUR name on the appreciation list I am compiling.

das20v Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:15 pm

This is a sample of the rear engine lid. I did this in Solidworks, and the output will be 1:16 scale. The sheet metal thickness is thick (0.320" in real life size), but will end up being about .020" thick in 1:16 scale due to model building materials and strength required. I appreciate any help I can get, this forum is a wealth of info for this project already, so I'll try not to bother everyone with questions too often.




2Pack Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:53 pm

So you're 3D printing a bus? Bad ass. The bus pictured is a '53 which you probably know. Alot of the details will be different from a 50-52, but the dimensions you asked for should be ok. Except the horn button would be a little lower on the early buses.

das20v Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:59 pm

I am a Barndoor newbie as far as correct details, so I appreciate the pointers.

The project will be multi-media. Some 3D printing, some vacu-forming, some resin casting and some photo-etch parts. I plan to master the parts in 3D CAD first, then I can disect the assemblies into managable parts with the various methods I mentioned. It will be a long-term project due to the complexity, and the fact that I want to "get it right". I will post progress pics as I go.

Thanks.

RockStock Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:12 pm

Looks interesting
A1 is 445mm

das20v Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Awesome, Ill get started on the Steering wheel now! Thanks!

exciter Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:34 pm

Very cool!!!

2Pack Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:24 pm

B1 11.0 inches
B2 9 3/4 inches
B3 6 15/16 inches

*Edit* I had B2 and B3 switched

das20v Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:05 am

RockStock & 2Pack...thank you!

Lowdown Dirty Rat Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:34 am

Very cool!
What type of barndoor are you making? Panelvan? Kombi?
Guess it's not a deluxe as you want the non-deluxe dash :cry:
:D

Gustav Petri Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:37 am

C1 305mm
C2 438mm

C/c screw on handle longest 412mm
C/c screw on handle shortest 35mm
Handle tube outer dia 18mm

RockStock Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:24 am

D1 looks like its 70mm.

das20v Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:38 pm

Lowdown Dirty Rat wrote: Very cool!
What type of barndoor are you making? Panelvan? Kombi?
Guess it's not a deluxe as you want the non-deluxe dash :cry:
:D

Doing a panelvan first, then maybe a Kombi or Deluxe later.

Lowdown Dirty Rat Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:29 am

Here's an idea. :wink:
Do it all in 3d printing.
You can now get a home 3d printer for just under £1000 and they are coming down all the time. If you were willing to share your schematics for a small price, or maybe as a thank you for those who helped. Then I for one would buy a 3d printer just to make one. Looking at the quality of your engine lid, its superb.
Offer that insentive and you'll have barndoor owners at your beckoning call ready to give you the correct dimensions for every washer, nut and bolt :D
A 3d resin print schematic for a barndoor would be amazing!!!!!
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Checkout this video of a sand beast that can basically walk out of a 3d printer. How cool! Now imagine a barndoor :D

2Pack Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:13 am

I should clarify that the B2 value I gave above is measured to the vertical surface that the grab bar is mounted to.

das20v Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:37 am

2Pack wrote: I should clarify that the B2 value I gave above is measured to the vertical surface that the grab bar is mounted to. Thanks 2Pack! Info updated

das20v Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:21 pm

How does this look everyone?

I still need the dimension from the steering column (floor to top of wheel), then I can add the column to this. Need the ĜOD of the column too.



2Pack Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:17 pm

That looks awesome!

I don't know how far you want to go with the details, but you may want to pick a production date. The steering tube for example was skinny, then fat in '51, then skinny again as I read on here somewhere.

OvalinAz Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:19 pm

Wow! Gona keep watchin this one! 8) looks like its going to be a good build!

j.pickens Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:44 pm

I have an accurate stl file of the semaphore switch knob I can post to you, if it helps.

Here it is in actual size getting printed on my Thing-O-Matic:




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