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Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:49 pm

crofty wrote: doveblue3 wrote:

here is a question. if you are seeking "all things vintage", what would happen if someone contacted you and had something "vintage" for sale? if you have to plan a $50 magnet purchase 3 months in advance, then how do you expect to buy "all things vintage"? maybe you mean seeking "all things vintage and free"? i am having trouble with the logic here...

I like the idea but I ain't spending 50 bones on a magnet; I'd just run LED's if I was that worried about being seen.

i have no beef about the price of the magnet. i bought 2. in fact it is CHEAP insurance.

rear bumper - $700
splash pans - $100
tail lights - $400
reflectors - $250
decklid - $250
corners - $300

thats at least $2000 in parts alone if i get smacked!

my post was about the logic of placing a wanted ad in a sig line, but then saying you cant spend $50 right now. its like when people flake out on you when you are selling something, but this is an invitation to a future flake out.

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:52 pm

NorCalRiviera wrote:
I wouldn't worry about the logic much. If something vintage comes along and I can buy it, cool. If not, I pass on it. :) Actually, PM'ing me about it is a better idea because that'll let everyone else keep talking about the magnets.

-Taylor

Like you have never steered a thread the other way???

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:59 pm

doveblue3 wrote:

i have no beef about the price of the magnet. i bought 2. in fact it is CHEAP insurance.

rear bumper - $700
splash pans - $100
tail lights - $400
reflectors - $250
decklid - $250
corners - $300

thats at least $2000 in parts alone if i get smacked!

my post was about the logic of placing a wanted ad in a sig line, but then saying you cant spend $50 right now. its like when people flake out on you when you are selling something, but this is an invitation to a future flake out.

I see your point about the sign but you have to be close enough to read a sign whereas bright lights are what a driver is going to pay attention too or notice a lot sooner than a bright sign. They look good and I hope they work for everyone but I can't justify it; it has nothing to do with the cost either.
As far as the flake out is concerned I'm not sure but in lieu of recent posts you are probably aren't too far off. Well maybe on topic but...

Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:12 pm

The only thing for me is that my buses aren't exactly slow moving. Not fast, but not slow either.

I'm happy for both the creator and the users tho. Good product gets support.

Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:43 pm

I think it would be prefect on the last bus of a multi-bus caravan. Hummmmm.

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:12 pm

crofty wrote: I'd just run LED's if I was that worried about being seen.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR
Quote: NOTES CONCERNING TAIL/SIGNAL/BRAKE LED BULBS:
For best results the LED color should be the same as the lens color

LED brake/tail lamps may not work with some thermal flasher units due to their extremely low current draw. These installations will require an electronic flasher unit available at your auto parts store.

LED bulbs may cause some newer vehicles to indicate a bulb is burnt out (because of their low power consumption). Some cars indicate this by increasing the flash rate of the turn signals, some do not flash at all. This can be remedied with load resistors wired across the turn signal bulbs to simulate a filament bulb load. We have these available by our LED turn signal bulbs in our online shopping cart.

LED bulbs are generally not as bright as standard incandescent bulbs, they have many advantages over filament bulbs (longer life, faster on/off times, lower power consumption, more vivid colors) but brightness is not one of them.

Some of our bulbs are available with 12 or 19 LEDS, obviously the 19 LED units are brighter.

Some of our bulbs are available with Narrow or Wide viewing angle. The Wide angle (approx. 100 degree beam) will light up more area but dimmer than the Narrow angle. The Narrow angle (approx. 15 degree) will illuminate a smaller area but brighter than the Wide angle.

But I still like the magnets and plan on getting one. Especially at night, the reflectorized sign will probably show up long before an LED tail light will. That's why many states have gone to reflectorized license plates. They work. And almost all of the LED sites state that their LED bulbs are only for off-road or show use as they are not DOT approved. Of course neither are H4's and that doesn't stop anybody. :wink: What - me run H4's? Nah. Forget it, I like wandering in the dark with a candle.

Has anybody tried LED tail light bulbs? Good, bad, indifferent?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:23 pm

dstefun wrote: That's why many states have gone to reflectorized license plates. They work.

And one of the reasons why CA won't let you register a black plate to your bus.

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:37 pm

Just ordered one! :D

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:01 pm

crofty wrote: doveblue3 wrote:

i have no beef about the price of the magnet. i bought 2. in fact it is CHEAP insurance.

rear bumper - $700
splash pans - $100
tail lights - $400
reflectors - $250
decklid - $250
corners - $300

thats at least $2000 in parts alone if i get smacked!

my post was about the logic of placing a wanted ad in a sig line, but then saying you cant spend $50 right now. its like when people flake out on you when you are selling something, but this is an invitation to a future flake out.

I see your point about the sign but you have to be close enough to read a sign whereas bright lights are what a driver is going to pay attention too or notice a lot sooner than a bright sign. They look good and I hope they work for everyone but I can't justify it; it has nothing to do with the cost either.
As far as the flake out is concerned I'm not sure but in lieu of recent posts you are probably aren't too far off. Well maybe on topic but...

Of course I am biased. But, many people are not too conditioned to see red lights. If someone is behind you with a 30 mph closing speed, they probably would not notice the red taillights. These magnets work so well because they are different. it makes people think "WTF is this going down the road??" They probably slow down just to read the sign. The pictures really do not do these things justice, they are BRIGHT!!

-Ollie

Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:19 pm

SHSC wrote: dstefun wrote: That's why many states have gone to reflectorized license plates. They work.

And one of the reasons why CA won't let you register a black plate to your bus.

Plate color has nothing to do with it. CA does allow you to register black and yellow plates like the 51 to 55 plates if they are DMV clear. They do not allow the black and yellow plates from the early 60's because the number sequences from that era have been recirculated on newer plates.

The magnets have lots of advantages over LED lights and other methods of getting the drivers attention:

1. No modifications required to your vintage bus.
2. No wiring required.
3. Large reflective surface area so its easy to see.
4. Easily installed and removed.
5. Uncommon design so it gets more attention than lights.
6. Can be transfered easily from one bus to another.

And many more......

I think it is a great idea and worth the small investment. I have 2!

Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:42 pm

Anchovy wrote: 4... easiley removed....
6. Can be transfered easily from one bus to another.
!

Is that a benifit or a detriment? Depends on where you live I guess :?
I'd like one, but I'd like to keep it.

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:20 pm

Anchovy wrote:
Plate color has nothing to do with it. CA does allow you to register black and yellow plates like the 51 to 55 plates if they are DMV clear. They do not allow the black and yellow plates from the early 60's because the number sequences from that era have been recirculated on newer plates.

Not entirely true. Gray Davis said he would not let black based plates (1963) be registered to vehicles who currently do not have them, as it would pose a risk to too many officers with that many vehicles on the road with un-reflective plates (what ever that means). That is why he Veto'd the bill. Ok, back to magnets.

Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:16 am

Anchovy wrote: SHSC wrote: dstefun wrote: That's why many states have gone to reflectorized license plates. They work.

And one of the reasons why CA won't let you register a black plate to your bus.

Plate color has nothing to do with it. CA does allow you to register black and yellow plates like the 51 to 55 plates if they are DMV clear. They do not allow the black and yellow plates from the early 60's because the number sequences from that era have been recirculated on newer plates.

The magnets have lots of advantages over LED lights and other methods of getting the drivers attention:

1. No modifications required to your vintage bus.
2. No wiring required.
3. Large reflective surface area so its easy to see.
4. Easily installed and removed.
5. Uncommon design so it gets more attention than lights.
6. Can be transfered easily from one bus to another.

Any plate made prior to 1963 can be reassingned to a car of that model year. SHSC was correct with what Davis said when he dismissed the bill. If newr plates are 7 characters and old plates are 6, how can they be recirculated?
I don't run LEDs but I drive my bus a lot and I use regular 12volt bulbs. As far as I know LED lights do not require and modes to your buckets as the ones I have seen use the same slide in base as a regular bulb. So there really aren't any modifications necessary.

Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:54 am

crofty wrote: ....If newr plates are 7 characters and old plates are 6, how can they be recirculated?

Not to belabor the point, but to answer your question.....

Here is a little worthless information....The numbers on the six digit plates from 1963 were used again on the 6 digit blue and yellow plates, as the old numbers were retired. CA started with six digit plates and has increased and decreased the number of digits as new color schemes have been introduced. Changing the color effectively gave the system new life. 7 digits were first introduced in 1924 but the State has reverted to fewer digits at times. For example, you will find 7 digits on 1952 plates and 6 digits on 1962 plates.

The point I was trying to make is that the color of the plate is not the reason it cannot be used. The reason the 1963 period black and yellow's were obsoleted was the numbers were being used again, and the reason the plates have not been reintroduced (among other reasons) is they are not reflective. Pre-1963 YOM (year of manufacture) plates can be used if they are DMV clear regardless of their color (as long as they are the original color). Color doesn't matter and refelctivity doesn't matter.....the year does.

Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:37 pm

Anchovy wrote: Color doesn't matter and refelctivity doesn't matter.....the year does.

True, but that is the reason you cant use those years. Anyways, 1963 CA plates still are valuable for whatever reasons.

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:15 pm

I thought the only difference between the two plates was that the black and yellow (1963) plates were three letters then three numbers and the blue and yellow (1969) plates were three numbers and then three letters.
That's how people can get away with painting the later blue plates the earlier black colors.

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:47 pm

Pescado,

You are correcto. Black plates= ABC 123 and blue plates = 123 ABC

Non reflectivity is the major reason for not issuing the black plates.
Also law states the cutoff year as 1963. That may also be due to 1963 being a major plate change.

The only way black plates can be issued now is that the numbers have to clear, and you have to possess documentation stating that the black plates were originally registered to the vehicle when new. I did this with my 63 a few years back.

Beto
60Std-sportin' black plates-lookin for yellow

Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:24 am

Back to the Top!

Do you have these in stock? Or plan on having any in stock say in a couple of months?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:56 am

I emailed Ollie a week or 2 ago about large hatch magnets and he said he would have them shortly. I didn't ask about small hatch magnets. PM him as Barnabus if he doesn't reply to the forum.

Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:18 am

I'll take one!