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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: BerT3's dropped spindles |
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Hello,
Finally after 4 years I have a suitable test car for my own fabricated dropped spindles.
Bought a '66 T34 some time ago and decided to test run a pair of my spindles on the car.
Took me some hours to put them on.
Took advantage of the car being on axle stands to renew the entire front brake system and upgrading to a dual circuit master cylinder with new calipers, hoses etc...
Removed the bottom bumpstop in case I want to go lower.
For the moment it's just sock height with the spindles on.
I like the stance with the stock size rims and new oem spec. tires.
Next week I gonna have the front train aligned.
I have enough cores to make some other sets. I will have 2 sets available to overseas customers.
For details check www.BerT3.be - accept downloading the .doc to read the pages.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/156982.jpg
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localboy Samba Longboarder

Joined: December 06, 2003 Posts: 5153 Location: "Mainland", PNW
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: BerT3's dropped spindles |
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BerT3 wrote: |
For the moment it's just sock height with the spindles on.
I like the stance with the stock size rims and new oem spec. tires.
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Pix of the car with them installed? Would like to see the "stance". _________________ One man's "patina" is another man's cancer...
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original paint Pearl White '66 Westy SO-42
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Notched Samba Member

Joined: January 19, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Uhhhhhh,
Is this a problem?? _________________ Phillip Bradfield
Current stock: '57 Panel Bus, '63 Rat Notch, '64 Baja, '66 Variant, '67 Convertible Ghia, '68 Squareback, '69 Squareback, '69 Fastback
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Bobnotch Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 23265 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Notched wrote: |
Uhhhhhh,
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UHH, I think it's missing a tire. The rim only really lowers the front end. I'd still like a set of those. I know they work. If I sent you a set of core spindles, would it save me a core charge?  _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:32 am Post subject: |
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If I sent you a set of core spindles, would it save me a core charge? |
That's the main idea yes.
I have 4 pair of cores myself. which I am planning to have made in the next month.
Photos next week. Otherwise check old threads and photos under my nickname at this very forum !
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member

Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3068 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
Notched wrote: |
Uhhhhhh,
Is this a problem?? |
UHH, I think it's missing a tire. |
Bob, it looks like it's scraping the inside of the rim...thus the problem  _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bob, it looks like it's scraping the inside of the rim...thus the problem |
It isn't though.
At least 1 inch space.
It's because of the top vieuw photo !
I can take some photos of it installed next week.
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canabus Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2003 Posts: 259 Location: Kelowna.B.C
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: parts |
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did you have a certified welder weld that,looks like a fair bit of undercut and lack of weld material,by the cad plated piece
I know in canada that if there is not a red seal interprovincial ticket you can't use any modified parts,or you are personally liable as a driver
I personally would hate to loose everything ,I worked hard for ,for lack of a certified tradesman
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: |
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did you have a certified welder weld that,looks like a fair bit of undercut and lack of weld material,by the cad plated piece |
It indeed looks like it; It's because there is a kind of a logoon in the bottom piece. Hence why it looks underwelded.
Both halves where heated in a smiss oven before welding though.
They are bolted through with one M10 and one M12 bolt for safety
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I know in canada that if there is not a red seal interprovincial ticket you can't use any modified parts,or you are personally liable as a driver |
Same over here as with any non stock parts !
We just have new laws regarding tuning over here.
We even have to have a certificate for a non stock steering wheel !
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/284032.jpg
Finally a photo
Front:
145/65 tires on a 4.5" lemmertz rim with ET 25 and an extra 10mm added wide of the 42mm dropped spindles.
Added an extra 1 outer spline drop at the front trailing arms.
Makes it possible to use new standard height shocks due to almost it's entire stock travel.
Rear:
165/65 tires on a 4.5" lemmertz rim with ET 25
I found this the perfect stance with lots of room and comfort
Note these are both expensive tires !
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Mr. Bubblehead El Chupa Nibre

Joined: October 25, 2002 Posts: 2756 Location: 612 Wharf Avenue
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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BerT3 wrote: |
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/284032.jpg
Finally a photo
Front:
145/65 tires on a 4.5" lemmertz rim with ET 25 and an extra 10mm added wide of the 42mm dropped spindles.
Added an extra 1 outer spline drop at the front trailing arms.
Makes it possible to use new standard height shocks due to almost it's entire stock travel.
Rear:
165/65 tires on a 4.5" lemmertz rim with ET 25
I found this the perfect stance with lots of room and comfort
Note these are both expensive tires !
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Got any more of those 4.5" Sprints you care to part with? _________________ OGST
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Got any more of those 4.5" Sprints you care to part with? |
Aren't those common in the USA ?
Not much choice for 4 lug cars in a decent offset.
Tried rivieras etc ... All a bad offset.
Stock ET value of 46 is the best. Not much space underneath a lowered T34.
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blankmange Type 3 Darksider

Joined: July 17, 2004 Posts: 11498 Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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BerT3 wrote: |
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Got any more of those 4.5" Sprints you care to part with? |
Aren't those common in the USA ?
Not much choice for 4 lug cars in a decent offset.
Tried rivieras etc ... All a bad offset.
Stock ET value of 46 is the best. Not much space underneath a lowered T34.
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nope -- the 5.5" are more common, but the 4.5"s are not... _________________ póg mo thóin
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notchback Insensitive Jerk

Joined: December 16, 2003 Posts: 7024 Location: Behind the Zion Curtain
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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blankmange wrote: |
BerT3 wrote: |
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Got any more of those 4.5" Sprints you care to part with? |
Aren't those common in the USA ?
Not much choice for 4 lug cars in a decent offset.
Tried rivieras etc ... All a bad offset.
Stock ET value of 46 is the best. Not much space underneath a lowered T34.
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nope -- the 5.5" are more common, but the 4.5"s are not... |
I've got 4 4.5" and 9 5.5" sitting in my barn  _________________
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blankmange Type 3 Darksider

Joined: July 17, 2004 Posts: 11498 Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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notchback wrote: |
blankmange wrote: |
BerT3 wrote: |
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Got any more of those 4.5" Sprints you care to part with? |
Aren't those common in the USA ?
Not much choice for 4 lug cars in a decent offset.
Tried rivieras etc ... All a bad offset.
Stock ET value of 46 is the best. Not much space underneath a lowered T34.
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nope -- the 5.5" are more common, but the 4.5"s are not... |
I've got 4 4.5" and 9 5.5" sitting in my barn  |
and you are doing what with them -- hoarding them? I'll take 2 and 2, thank you... _________________ póg mo thóin
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notchback Insensitive Jerk

Joined: December 16, 2003 Posts: 7024 Location: Behind the Zion Curtain
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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blankmange wrote: |
notchback wrote: |
blankmange wrote: |
BerT3 wrote: |
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Got any more of those 4.5" Sprints you care to part with? |
Aren't those common in the USA ?
Not much choice for 4 lug cars in a decent offset.
Tried rivieras etc ... All a bad offset.
Stock ET value of 46 is the best. Not much space underneath a lowered T34.
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nope -- the 5.5" are more common, but the 4.5"s are not... |
I've got 4 4.5" and 9 5.5" sitting in my barn  |
and you are doing what with them -- hoarding them? I'll take 2 and 2, thank you... |
Three sets. One set of 5 painted 5.5"s with OG center caps. One set of nice original chrome 2 - 4.5" and 2 - 5.5" with OG center caps. One set of ratty/rusty chrome 2 -4.5" and 2 - 5.5" with no caps. Just trying to decided what to do with them all. Also have two sets of polished 8 spokes and a set of 5 Baja Marathon rims all with center caps. I've got more money tied up in accessories than I have in any car. _________________
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