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as long as you aren't losing any cooling air from gap, shouldn't be a problem...
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localboy
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When you install the large inner fan just make sure you have no clearance issues against the housing.
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Russ Wolfe
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It can be done without grinding the case, or spacing it out. Those pictures are of Jim Adney's installation.
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FASTBACKDON
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the secret is the Gene Berg type 3 full flow pump cover
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localboy
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The Gene Berg kit does a good job but it's still a very tight fit back there. My fan housing still required very minor clearancing.
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FASTBACKDON
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| The Gene Berg kit does a good job but it's still a very tight fit back there. My fan housing still required very minor clearancing. |
Really? Ok thanks for the warning I need a berg fullflow for my 2 liter. what clearancing is involved send or post pictures.
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localboy
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| localboymark wrote: |
| The Gene Berg kit does a good job but it's still a very tight fit back there. My fan housing still required very minor clearancing. |
Really? Ok thanks for the warning I need a berg fullflow for my 2 liter. what clearancing is involved send or post pictures.
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Really minor though, Don. Mainly one of the raised "fins" on the rear molded into the housing for strengthening. I'll see if I can find a pic of it. If not I have to raise it up and crawl under there for some pics for Brian so I'll try to get some as best as possible.
Like I said; it's a tight fit. God forbid it leaks from one of the fittings.  I'd have to take apart the entire fan housing etc. just to get to it.
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Notched
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I really like my engine builders plan. No angles... No adjusting anything...
If you look closely, there is a brass block off between the holes.
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Unless I am mistaken, the only difference between the Berg type-1 and type-3 kits are the fittings. I just changed the fittings on mine.
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Yeah it's got a different brass fitting that's slightly clearanced on one side to clear the fan housing.
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| the secret is the Gene Berg type 3 full flow pump cover |
True...but the Berg pressure regulating unit is the better choice. Keeps your oil filter from exploding 
P.S. I like Phillip's solution the best!
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notched has the right idea...no reason for messing with anything else....then you can stil run the cool 1500 super oil pump cover
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Here are some pics of how mine was done. Had to shave some material off the back of the shroud as well as shave some meat off the brass fitting.
This filter mount worked for me since I have merged headers and no heater boxes.
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Don't know if I like the filter that close to the headers. It will add heat to the oil.
And, it looks like you are not an IRS engine with the cross member.
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Agree, Russ. I fab'd a simple bracket to use the bumper mounting location with just longer bolts. My oil filter sits above the driver's side bumper bracket and the steel braided hoses clear the headers by a few inches. Now if I could only get the breather box hoses to run so cleanly. 
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Killer installation. Gives me ideas when I get ready freshen up the motor in my square.
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