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airschooled
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A noid light and a teaspoon of gas will get you a lot farther than the children on here.
Robbie
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W1K1
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:23 am Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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A noid light and a teaspoon of gas will get you a lot farther than the children on here.
Robbie |
Disconnected the fuel pump, tried the noid light while cranking, nothing on the 3 injector plugs I checked
crank sensor measured 1.93k , cam sensor 1.94k.
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W1K1
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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Aaand it was me, Travis had me try a couple things and we narrowed it down to the wire from the ignition switch wasn’t on. The funny thing is Darrel pm’d me the same thing earlier and I had to take a video to confirm that the acc was giving 12v but switching to ign it wasn’t
So I need to use the correct wire off the ignition switch VWC-111-905-865-F - (111905865F)
I was hesitant to do the swap after being Aircooled for the last 45 years, but with lots of people helping along the way we made it happen.
Lots of little things to fiddle with still on the electrical stuff, getting all the lights working, etc, but that is why I took a week off to just work on the bus
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxohaAUPZd8/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Shonandb
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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Aaand it was me, Travis had me try a couple things and we narrowed it down to the wire from the ignition switch wasn’t on. The funny thing is Darrel pm’d me the same thing earlier and I had to take a video to confirm that the acc was giving 12v but switching to ign it wasn’t
So I need to use the correct wire off the ignition switch VWC-111-905-865-F - (111905865F)
I was hesitant to do the swap after being Aircooled for the last 45 years, but with lots of people helping along the way we made it happen.
Lots of little things to fiddle with still on the electrical stuff, getting all the lights working, etc, but that is why I took a week off to just work on the bus
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxohaAUPZd8/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== |
Congratulations Mark! Hope you'll be sharing the first (or second) start video. Edit: I just noticed that you did via the link. Awesome!
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W1K1
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:22 am Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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pulled all the wires off for the ignition to test, so it turns out the electrical part of the repo ignition switch is the problem
the 15 terminal has connection only with the key on, not when switched to starter, so the ECU was getting shut off when the starter was turning.
checked all the wires off the switch, they are all working correctly, except the 15
stupid me thinking new VW parts should work 
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W1K1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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Good stuff now, maradyne havasu heater 20000 btu and 177 cfm for front heat and defrost.
Built a couple brackets for mounting, popped out 2 of the vents and removed the flapper’s, then added some ABS fittings to attach hoses, 2” ABS fits the 2.5” hose and the short section of 2.5 od exhaust tube that is glued inside the air inlet that was cut off.
A clean start
Prettily good fit, I looked at a lot of different heaters to find something that fit the space. It was a short drop into the front heat duct, and I just capped the other outlet until I run a tube to the floor outlet between the seats
There is a good amount of air blowing out of the vents when it’s running
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airschooled
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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Congrats on the startup!
Glad you caught the weird switch. The 'cutout during start' is usually called the X terminal, and is for the headlights, wipers, etc. to cut load from the battery temporarily. It's usually black and yellow. #15 should be black. Check to see if they're swapped?
Robbie
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W1K1
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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Congrats on the startup!
Glad you caught the weird switch. The 'cutout during start' is usually called the X terminal, and is for the headlights, wipers, etc. to cut load from the battery temporarily. It's usually black and yellow. #15 should be black. Check to see if they're swapped?
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Nope it was a junk repop switch I checked it a couple times to make sure it wasn’t just wired wrong
The replacement was all good, I found out my emergency flasher switch was wrong as well , trying to wire it up and not enough terminals
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:46 am Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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just about time to get moving again once the snow melts, and I finish repairing my pop top and tent.
quick question about Alternator wiring, the VW wiring was from alternator to starter, and the Subi was alternator to battery, does it matter?
just asking because the post on the starter has 3-4 wires all piled on and only a couple wires on the battery, wouldn't it make more sense for the alternator to connect directly to the thing it's charging?
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deathman68
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:53 am Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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I've got mine running from alternator to battery. It doesn't make a difference IMO. I always go with the shortest run possible in all-things wiring so as to minimize loss (and cost). I DO recommend putting a nice big fuse in-line to prevent a catastrophic melt-down in the event of a short...I typically size mine +10% over the expected alternator output amps.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: subaru swap questions |
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| I've got mine running from alternator to battery. It doesn't make a difference IMO. I always go with the shortest run possible in all-things wiring so as to minimize loss (and cost). I DO recommend putting a nice big fuse in-line to prevent a catastrophic melt-down in the event of a short...I typically size mine +10% over the expected alternator output amps. |
I can't remember how my VW alternator wiring connected but similar to yours and "deathman68", my Subaru wiring goes from the alternator to the main fuse box (next to the battery) and then to the battery. I also have my alternator connected to a 40A relay which connects to my Leisure Battery system as well if needed, controlled by a switch. I've only had to use it once so far as the solar panel keeps the leisure battery topped up.
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I have a renology DC to Dc charger set up for the solar panels/leisure battery that also monitors and charges the starter battery.
the new technology is great, needless to say there are a lot of new wires run around in the bus vs the old 120V plug in on the side 
I think I'll move that wire to the battery and save some space on that starter post, I happen to have an inline fuse holder that came with the DC to DC charger I didn't use.
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