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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: 1970 Floor Pan Reply with quote

Bought this on eBay for £25.00 its a 1970 Beetle Cabriolette Floor pan on an A-Plate originally LHD but you would never tell as it is now a RHD.
Brought it home stripped it shot blasted it, welded all the holes up & had it Hot galvanised. Now I have a 25 year guarantee on it even if I don't paint it. I have painted it so it will last forever. I haven't decided if it is going on my 1971 Baja or my 1965 Herbie project.
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As it was when I bought it
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Back from the Benetts after shot blasting. Peugeots have their uses!
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Almost ready for Galvanizing. Black circles are where welding is needed
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Nice & shiny from Cardiff Galv
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Etch priming
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Almost ready
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Just needs putting back together now
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Thanks M8, still a long way to go.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect job! Congratulations! I will link it to Portuguese VW forum.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is cool! Just think how much work would have been saved if VW had galvanized tha chassis!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few questions about the galvanization.

Did you plug the fuel lines or plug the threaded areas like for the tranny mount and excet ?

If you did not have you had to run a tap through the threaded areas?

If I remember correctly some of the later VW hard fuel lines were an aluminum steel or stainless steel alloy. I was under the impression that galvanizing these metal alloys reacted badly and would cause them to corrode. Or perhaps I have had a stroke….
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Hi all, when galvanizing, you must make sure that all of the rubber, underseal, paint & rust is removed otherwise the Zinc won't stick, all of the threads had to be re-tapped, this is easy because the metal is soft. some of the pipes in the chasis were blocked at the end so I just put a blow lamp on them & rodded them with some stiff wire. you cann't galvanize any part that has a sealed end otherwise the galv will explode inside the void & spit the part, luckily the VW floorpan has no sealed areas.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason I was thinking that paint would not stick to galvanized metal.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you put paint straight on it wont, if you wipe it over with thinners to get the salt off & then etch primer it it will take any paint after that. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's beautiful... I am using an angle grinder to get all of my rust off. It's very time consuming, and I am having to rewind the field coil in my angle grinder today because it is almost burned up! It's a lot of work. How much did the shot peening cost, and how much was the galvanizing?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tundrawolf wrote:
That's beautiful... I am using an angle grinder to get all of my rust off. It's very time consuming, and I am having to rewind the field coil in my angle grinder today because it is almost burned up! It's a lot of work. How much did the shot peening cost, and how much was the galvanizing?

The whole effort cost me about £450 Very Happy
Good luck with yours M8
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris, I was reading up on galvanizing last night, and it seems that the method they use to hang it is important to venting and draining. Do you know how they hung yours? Did they hang it from one side of the floor pan, or did they hang it from the frame horns?
Did they have to drill extra venting/drain holes?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
Chris, I was reading up on galvanizing last night, and it seems that the method they use to hang it is important to venting and draining. Do you know how they hung yours? Did they hang it from one side of the floor pan, or did they hang it from the frame horns?
Did they have to drill extra venting/drain holes?

They put it in flat then spun it around & let the excess run out. No drilling or venting was needed. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't want to bump the old thread just to say THATS BAD ASS!!!!!!!! Very Happy but now that some one else has dun it there you go!! I would love to do the same thing! but I dont see it happening any time soun cents I dont have A garage to do the work in,, I dont even have A drive way so most of the stuff I do needs to be fast! cents my cars parked on the street..

I had started A thread about galvanizing some parts, and the link to your thread was posted(I started drooling Laughing ) From what I have found there are no tanks loco that would be able to lay A full pan down like you say thy did yours, It would need to stand on its side.. but I was only looking at doing miscellanies parts any way Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the other topic:

Galvanizing...
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is not nice looking doesn't really lay down smooth it doesn't really work for parts that move wont flex and looks like crap if you try to paint over it.


Chris, what do you think of the look after painting?
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vw_hank wrote:
I didn't want to bump the old thread just to say THATS BAD ASS!!!!!!!! Very Happy but now that some one else has dun it there you go!! I would love to do the same thing! but I dont see it happening any time soun cents I dont have A garage to do the work in,, I dont even have A drive way so most of the stuff I do needs to be fast! cents my cars parked on the street..

I had started A thread about galvanizing some parts, and the link to your thread was posted(I started drooling Laughing ) From what I have found there are no tanks loco that would be able to lay A full pan down like you say thy did yours, It would need to stand on its side.. but I was only looking at doing miscellanies parts any way Wink

In the UK there are loads of Galvanising factories, the tanks are normal very big to take large gates & railings. Very Happy
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Bruce wrote:
From the other topic:

Galvanizing...
rhoads2 wrote:
is not nice looking doesn't really lay down smooth it doesn't really work for parts that move wont flex and looks like crap if you try to paint over it.


Chris, what do you think of the look after painting?

If I done it again I would leave it unpainted or get it powder coated. Very Happy
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chrisradioman wrote:
vw_hank wrote:
I didn't want to bump the old thread just to say THATS BAD ASS!!!!!!!! Very Happy but now that some one else has dun it there you go!! I would love to do the same thing! but I dont see it happening any time soun cents I dont have A garage to do the work in,, I dont even have A drive way so most of the stuff I do needs to be fast! cents my cars parked on the street..

I had started A thread about galvanizing some parts, and the link to your thread was posted(I started drooling Laughing ) From what I have found there are no tanks loco that would be able to lay A full pan down like you say thy did yours, It would need to stand on its side.. but I was only looking at doing miscellanies parts any way Wink

In the UK there are loads of Galvanising factories, the tanks are normal very big to take large gates & railings. Very Happy


I found 5 that are within about 20 miles of me, and It looks like this one has the biggest tank,, but I'm not planing to do A hole pan like you so I dont need them to have A huge tank Smile

Single-dip dimensions of 22' (length) x 5.6' (width) x 6.6' (depth).
We are capable of galvanizing material up to 38’ in length or up to 12’ in height. (Double-Dip method)


Unless the VW pan is under 5 1/2 feet wide??
I seen pics of there work, Shocked thy do A lot of out door decorative stuff. and say It has A life of 50+ years
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goranothos wrote:
For some reason I was thinking that paint would not stick to galvanized metal.


White vinegar works well to prepare the freshly galvanized surface for paint adhesion.
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69 Jim wrote:
Goranothos wrote:
For some reason I was thinking that paint would not stick to galvanized metal.


White vinegar works well to prepare the freshly galvanized surface for paint adhesion.
Ive been told that as well. Unfortunately I've never been able to make it a reality through several attempts. I think I'd stick with the method Chris detailed in this thread.
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