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MikeBock
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| Bren wrote: |
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Hey Bren.....it looks great  I think I just keep goin back to something that is hidden. So.....I will probably cut the dash and reinstall the glovebox and hide it in there.
Thanks for posting up the pics 
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65ruby
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Please Do Not cut the dash... you'll be sorry if you do down the road.
I did the glove box thing and I can always replace the OG glove box if I want to.Works out good for me,I can lock the glove box when I'm parked and it still looks stock when it's closed.With this deck I can plug in two IPods(one plug will charge it) and a DVD player to play the videos from the Ipod on a bigger 8 inch screen. It works great!
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johneliot
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This set up is a stereo that is made for a boat. It has a wired remote. It is small enough to fit in the dash without cutting. I just mounted the head unit in the trunk. Being made for a boat, I don't have to worry about water on the unit. It has an RCA jack for an ipod, so I don't worry about the cd unit. Everything plus 2 speakers were $150.
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mailman
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Going back toward the beginning of this thread....
The original concern is that a PO installed a custom dash with no glove box....... This is what would necessitate "cutting the dash". I don't think he's talking about cutting the center of the dash where the stock radio would go.
He's talking about cutting the dash to re-install a glove box, thus having somewhere to hide the stereo.....
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Bren
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I did not go the glove box route. I found that I could not use the wire cover in the trunk if I had the stereo in the glove box. I wanted to run the wire cover for a clean look in the trunk. Just something to keep in mind.
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johneliot
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If the stereo is in the trunk, he wouldn't have to cut the dash.
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mailman
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Yeah, John, I was referring to 65ruby's reply. I've got a question about your marine unit.
You said that it has an RCA jack for an iPod...... Does this mean that the iPod would mount in the trunk, too? If so, will the remote then give you control of iPod functions? Lastly, does the iPod battery charge while in use with your set-up?
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johneliot
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Good questions. First, the remote unit does not work the ipod. That blue button in the middle will switch to Aux. What I did was run the RCA cable with the 1/4 jack from the head unit through the hole that the rear window defrost switch (I have a 69) would be. I just hook the ipod up when I want to listen to it. There is a cable you can use that will charge at the same time. I don't use it because I didn't want to spend the $30 or so for it. When I decided to go this direction with a stereo unit, I did find some where the remote unit would run all the ipod functions. This comes at a higher cost. I would imagine that the remote unit might be bigger. It's not my daily driver or I might have gone in a different direction.
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65ruby
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Going back toward the beginning of this thread....
The original concern is that a PO installed a custom dash with no glove box....... This is what would necessitate "cutting the dash". I don't think he's talking about cutting the center of the dash where the stock radio would go.
He's talking about cutting the dash to re-install a glove box, thus having somewhere to hide the stereo..... |
Sorry about that,I guess I was not reading it correctly. I just Ass umed that he was refering to cutting the dash because it gets done so often in these bugs that I automaticaly think thats what is going to happen.
I'm just glad that nobody cut mine in the 40 years before I owned it !
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MikeBock
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Going back toward the beginning of this thread....
The original concern is that a PO installed a custom dash with no glove box....... This is what would necessitate "cutting the dash". I don't think he's talking about cutting the center of the dash where the stock radio would go.
He's talking about cutting the dash to re-install a glove box, thus having somewhere to hide the stereo..... |
Good call, Mailman You are correct....PO put dash in that smoothed out the dash area where the glovebox was. And, yes, I would rather hide the unit in the box....if I had one.
Also, want to be able to have controls handy. Thanks you guys for keeping this thread going as I am learning a lot.
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MikeBock
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| mailman wrote: |
Going back toward the beginning of this thread....
The original concern is that a PO installed a custom dash with no glove box....... This is what would necessitate "cutting the dash". I don't think he's talking about cutting the center of the dash where the stock radio would go.
He's talking about cutting the dash to re-install a glove box, thus having somewhere to hide the stereo..... |
Sorry about that,I guess I was not reading it correctly. I just Ass umed that he was refering to cutting the dash because it gets done so often in these bugs that I automaticaly think thats what is going to happen.
I'm just glad that nobody cut mine in the 40 years before I owned it !
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No worries.....you are the lucky one without the cut/modified dash
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djkeev
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Hi,
If you want to do an iPod do it right, clean and simple.
One of my pet peeves is a rats nest of wires just so I can listen to music. Most setups have you use the headphone jack, then because you want to charge as you drive, a power input jack going to a cigarette lighter, etc. When you want to look at your iPod and make adjustments the unit looks like its on life support in the ICU!
Not to mention the additional wires for the cassette deck interface or the crappy fm transmitters that force you to constantly search for a new radio station! I live in the NYC area and virtually every frequency has a station on it and just driving 20 miles forces you to be in a continual hunt mode for a clear empty band!
Order this cable from Amazon (or other place).
Get your amp and hide it wherever you wish. (or hook up to your remote device enabled stereo with RCA plugs)
Put this wire in your glove box or coming out of your ashtray.
Plug in your i-Pod and off you go.
I've ordered this for every car I and my children drive, I've adapted it to everything from a direct radio plug in to a hardwired FM transmitter into a factory non remote device enabled radio.
The plus side is that it looks and operates as close to factory as you can get, you still control the music from the iPod with this set up which is my preferred system after having a car where the factory radio controlled it in a strange and clunky manner. All you have visible is a clean single wire in a discreet place for the iPod.
It is fantastic, you will of course need 12 volts.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ED5B98
and if you need to transmit to a radio, this is the best way that I've found bar NONE! I found out the hard way the need to wire in an on / off switch for the transmitter for it will overwhelm all but the strongest radio station on your dial, you still need to select a frequency for your music but it really over powers all of the weaker stations.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wired-FM-Modulator-transmitter...p1638.m124
Good Luck all, you can play with these components and make almost any connection with any MP3 device you like. You would need a different adapter than the one I've pointed out on Amazon, they make em.
Dave
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johneliot
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Actually, I just found this and it's a great price. It's nice that it's fused. It can all be hidden in the trunk of glove box and only have the plug out
http://www.antonline.com/p_AIP-RCA-NX_448026.htm
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mailman
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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John,
That looks just like what I'd want! I'm wondering if the fused wire would indicate that this cable charges the iPod while its hooked up....
I plan on no head unit (at least for now), and I'm interested in volume control, as well. I either want to control volume from the iPod, or be able to add a volume control (maybe in place of the ashtray knob?).
djkeev,
Does your cable fill the bill with these requirements? Charging and volume control? Also, if it does charge, does it do so only if the key is on, or anytime it's plugged in?
I have an older Alpine (#3519, I think) amp that I bought new in the 80's. It puts out 30 watts RMS @ 4 ohms X 2. Will that be enough for iPod use in the car?
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John,
That looks just like what I'd want! I'm wondering if the fused wire would indicate that this cable charges the iPod while its hooked up....
I plan on no head unit (at least for now), and I'm interested in volume control, as well. I either want to control volume from the iPod, or be able to add a volume control (maybe in place of the ashtray knob?).
djkeev,
Does your cable fill the bill with these requirements? Charging and volume control? Also, if it does charge, does it do so only if the key is on, or anytime it's plugged in?
I have an older Alpine (#3519, I think) amp that I bought new in the 80's. It puts out 30 watts RMS @ 4 ohms X 2. Will that be enough for iPod use in the car? |
Hi,
I know the unit charges during use on the one I referenced to you. The other one mentioned is much less expensive and I assume it charges, why else would it have a fuse lead in it? Mine comes with a lighter plug for 12 v and video as well as sound RCA outputs. (like you need video in a bug!) I wired in a 12 volt cigar lighter outlet out of sight but I could have cut the plug off and hard wired it in if I had desired to.
There is no volume control in either of these wires, this setup only charges the iPod and puts the music into an RCA plug, both functions using the factory plug on the bottom of the unit and not the headphone output on the top.
It all depends how you wire it if it charges with the key on or not. You can select a key operated circuit or a non key hot all the time connection.
I haven't ever hooked one up just to an amp but I can regulate volume output into my wired fm transmitter and further adjust it at the radio head.
I will say the radio head does a lot more to control volume than the iPod can. I think I'd install a volume control like you mentioned somewhere if you are going to have just raw sound coming out of the amp, it will need to be controlled and the radio head normally carries that function.
All the iPod operational controls are still on the iPod itself.
The iPod isn't a big amp, only allowing for ear phones and minimal amplification. This adapter is simply an interface that charges and puts the iPod music output into the RCA plugs which then plug into your amp/radio head/fm transmitter, whatever.
I took my time (not in my bug yet) and removed a lot of interior and fed wires around and you'd never know my hook up wasn't factory installed in my car with the iPod wire in the center console, the iPod just sets in a cup holder like it was made for it.
In Todays electronic music age I see absolutely no reason to put a CD player/changer in any car any longer, it is a big piece of equipment that can be replaced by a 2 inch square marvel of electronics. The CD player is headed down the same road the 8 track traveled many years ago.
I'm surprised that they haven't yet put out a AM/FM radio with memory stick slots built into the radio (like a computer has for the various memory types) I did once see one with a USB port on the front of it.
With the wired fm transmitter you could feed an iPod into your factory radio, the sound will suffer but at least you get some good tunes of your selection instead of only what is off the air waves.
Best of luck and let us know what worked for you.
Dave
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