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baja72
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Joined: January 17, 2008
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Location: Bremen , Ga.
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| That is some serious fab work. What are you going to power this beast with? |
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motorbreath53
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Location: POWAY
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| ... What are you going to power this beast with? |
he spoke earlier of using the hopes and dreams of orphans.......
or maybe he said Honda v-6.... same thing I guess....
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baja72
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Location: Bremen , Ga.
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| Thanks MB. I must have been zoning. Duh! |
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motorbreath53
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Is it driving yet??? Cause I want a ride.......
Chop Chop! Lets move this along...
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Mr.C
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| Any updates? |
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Green bug Guy
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Joined: May 31, 2007
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Location: temecula, CA
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| i must say you (the builder) are insane!!! that is the coolest thing iv ever seen!!!!!!! |
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Iowavw_217
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Joined: June 19, 2008
Posts: 113
Location: Keokuk,IA
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| Did you sell it? |
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Mouthy
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Joined: January 31, 2009
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Location: Oregon
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I just sat and read through this whole thread, and I have to say I'm really impressed with your drive, and workmanship. I saw a picture from this a while ago, and have been looking for your thread. The way your car sits happens to be exactly what I'm going for.
The welds are definitely something to be envious of, but the last pictures were my favorite part. That car is so unique and so well built I kept thinking to myself "I wonder if hes gonna paint it??" and when I got to the pictures of it outside... I F**'n lost it man hahaha. The spray painted numbers were the perfect finishing touch before you rolled this thing out.
I just wanted to commend you for making a fantastic thread. Its hard to find a thread with such detailed information, good photos, and well written updates.
Kudos to you man. Great work. |
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bdkw1
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Joined: December 08, 2008
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Location: SoCal
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Finally an update |
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Modified Toyota 4x4 spindles, hollow, strong, cheap and come with nice disc brakes. I let the secret out. ESB fab did something similar about the same time I came up with the idea but I didn't act on the idea as fast as they did. They have made some very nice stuff. its too bad the business couldn't stay afloat, I almost bought some of their stuff for my truck. |
Actually, I made the first set of those for JD fab with the strait axle bolt on snouts. I made a couple sets later on for Mike but he decided to go the cheaper route like Total chaos and just weld up the IFS spindles. The problems with his, and I warned him while he was making them, was the long through bolt. It's really hard to find a quality bolt that long and it is way to springy due to it's length to do a proper job of keeping tension on everything. 2 shorter bolts would work much better. Also, welding the bottom mis-alignment spacer to the spindle will really help.
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| on the spindles.. I hope you plan on boxing them in. that upper extension is kinda sketchey with out any boxing. ESB might of done something like this but THERE is a reason why MIKE closed the doors a while ago. im not saying it won't work it should (with bracing) but I have a lot of friends in the industry and they've seen spindles done that way fail many times. since the spindles are cast it makes it harder for the weld to weld good this is why bracing would be a good idea. |
First, you have no idea what happened at ESB so keep quite. Second, those spindles come on trucks with torsion bars on the upper arms. The spindles are very strong and for a car this light will not need to be boxed even with the extensions. Third, Toyota spindles are forged, not cast. Fourth, get more educated friends. |
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takotruckin
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Joined: August 14, 2005
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Location: stuck in fresno, ca
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Dude, don't worry about 1up, that guy had a big mouth and was run out of the forums a long time ago...
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runslikeapenguin
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| Dude, don't worry about 1up, that guy had a big mouth and was run out of the forums a long time ago... |
i wonder what ever happened to that crazy A arm front end he was working on. remember that enormous like 400lb trophy truck style dual J arm set up made out of plate? i actually wanted to see how that turned out.
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jemorgan111
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Location: Los Alamos, NM
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Thanks to the loyal followers of the project. I am happy that everyone has enjoyed the build, I know I have. I had put this car on the back burner while I built a 4 seat vehicle that my entire family can use but then I wrecked on my downhill bike and thrashed my shoulder. No fab for the next 6 months from the shoulder surgery! This sucks. Anywhay, the bills are rolling in from the hospital and I need to generate some cash so the bulk of the car will be for sale in the classified section. Here is a picture of the 4runner for those that are curious. Its a fun one too and intended for all purpose offroading, crawling, camping. It cycles 16" of bump free travel in the front and 18" in the back and maybe it will be done in 3 years due to the lack of progress. All my stuff is long term now. If anyone has any questions on the car or how I fabbed something PM me and I will get back to you.
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kcnaz
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| I need to generate some cash so the bulk of the car will be for sale in the classified section |
Which car is for sale?
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BugMan114
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Click on the ads button below his post
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RICH01
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Joined: June 27, 2011
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Location: SAN JACINTO
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Major step completed |
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After several more months the car is rolling on all four wheels! Here is a few pictures of the “completed” front suspension. It still needs a fair amount of work with gussets on the upper and lower arms around all the pivots and tie rod ends. I tried to show several different angles for anyone who wants to copy it. The dimensions are after the pictures as a front view stick drawing. The first picture shows full droop, which will be about 11” down from ride height.
The second picture shows full bump, which is 9” up from ride height and just under the fender. Limit straps and bump stops are mandatory to prevent binding and wasting the heims.
Top view of the a-arm design. From Race Car Vehicle Dynamics, an a-arm that has one leg at 90 degrees to the frame will be stronger than an A shaped arm where both legs are angled. Unfortunately, I didn’t have enough room to make the upper arm a straight leg arm.
The upper arm only needs to be strong enough to resist the braking forces and hold the wheel upright. The lower needs to be very strong to absorb the impact of jumps and bumps because the coilover mounts to the lower in this design, which means spring loads and dampening loads both go through the lower arm.
Here are the dimensions for the front suspension as promised. All dimensions are to the center of the heims/pivots. The “spindle is on the left and is 14” from the lower pivot to the upper pivot. The tie rod mounts approximately 5.5” up from the lower pivot and is 5” long on my modified Toyota spindles. The spindle has a 14 degree kingpin inclination.
This setup will deliver 20” of travel easily with 1” uniballs at the spindle. 10 “ or 12” coilovers will work the best, 14” gets a little long to fit under the body.
The dimensions for the arm pivots is from the centerline of the car. The uniballs or arms must be pre-clocked at least 10-14 degrees or too much of the travel is above the bottom of the chassis.
The rack needs to be 12” eye to eye and is mocked up on the car right now because this setup was tuned to minimize bump steer. It is the 6” dimension on the right because the picture is only half of the front suspension. The outer tie rod heim also needs to be in double sheer, I just haven’t gotten that far yet. Never put a heim in single sheer if it can be avoided.
I also should have made the drawing of the opposite side of the car to match the pictures but hopefully everyone can figure it out.
Here is the car’s first trip out of the garage! It looks very cool in person, low roof almost like a rod but 16” of clearance under a smooth belly!
Different angles of the car.
I definitely like the way it looks from the front. The headlights will be mounted in the front bumper.
The rear tire mount gives the car a unique look and keeps it off the roof. Still is higher than I like.
Back in the garage to keep the rust off.
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NICE .....did you through a motor in it yet and/or paint it, if so show some pics....once again good job  |
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