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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 1986 Weekender sliding door curtain retainers with elastic (replaced) and original plastic loops:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 84 Westfalia GL Wolsburg Edition had the original in good condition curtains with that plastic loop, elastic hem and loop recipient.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SCM wrote:
kamzcab86 wrote:
Pegs, both sides of the sliding door opening
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That's what mine has too. And I don't think it's an East vs West coast thing like Kerry suggests as my van was originally purchased from a dealer in Georgia.

Edit to add: f'n-A. Multiple pages about how a curtain hangs, I can't believe I got sucked into this. Shocked


Same here. T.K., you must have Chinese knockoff versions of the Westy Laughing , I remember another thread where you said you also did not have and had never seen those stock little grey rubber bumpers in the stove lid that are supposed to eliminate rattling noise.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My 1986 Weekender sliding door curtain retainers with elastic (replaced) and original plastic loops:

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1971BigGuy,
That's the exact setup that my 1985 Weekender came with. There seems to be a pattern here.................... 8^)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<<Same here. T.K., you must have Chinese knockoff versions of the Westy>>

X-3

<< you also did not have and had never seen those stock little grey rubber bumpers in the stove lid that are supposed to eliminate rattling noise.>>

X-3 that own, plus a bunch that I have personnaly seen--looked at & touched.

The midwest must have been shiped them all them outsourced Vanagon Campmobiles--From Bangladesh, or Cassablaca maybe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The midwest must have been shiped them all them outsourced Vanagon Campmobiles--From Bangladesh, or Cassablaca maybe.


I guess that includes us Canadians too. At least those of us in the Greater Toronto Area since I know of at least 2 others with this setup. The ID. plate that reads Wesfalia-Werke, Wiedenbrück Germany must be a forgery. Hmmmm.

or possibly....
Terry Kay wrote:

Sombody took the time to sew them plastic rings into your curtains.
They sure didn't come that way hot off the press.


That "somebody" sure was busy!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't mind TK, the years go by and the guy doesn't change. Stating the rings are not original, Weekenders are not Westfalias, and pretending to have more knowledge than Wikipedia, suuurre...

Every single Vanagon Westfalia I've owned and seen had these rings and elastic in the sliding door curtain. The amount of documented cases in this thread proves that they were in fact an original set up. This doesn't mean that some might have not come like that from factory, for reasons that I don't know.

It would be so much better to say something like "Are these original? I had never seen them before", instead of coming down with a strong, uneducated statement mentioning that they are not original, no way, someone MUST have put them there!

I have been looking for the correct replacements for the plastic rings for a while, with no luck. I will try what was mentioned on page 1 of this thread. I had also thought about the key ring idea, sounds like it would work just fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have been looking for the correct replacements for the plastic rings for a while, with no luck.


Head to your local JoAnn's curtain hardware aisle and pick up http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-1-2-14-pkg/prd50589/ . The inside diameter of the originals is 1/2" (don't know if the Dritz measurement is ID or OD, so you might need the 3/4" version).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Head to your local JoAnn's curtain hardware aisle and pick up http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-1-2-14-pkg/prd50589/ . The inside diameter of the originals is 1/2" (don't know if the Dritz measurement is ID or OD, so you might need the 3/4" version).


I had only found 1/2' diameter at JoAnn's, which are too small. Didn't know they had 3/4" available online (http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-3-4-14-pkg/prd50916/), but paying the $5.95 for shipping seems extreme. I will see if they can be ordered from the store. Wonder if they are strong enough for the task...Thanks for the tip.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the middle of making my own curtains I found this web site helpful
http://www.vanagonwiki.net/wiki/Westy_curtains
And I don't have time to read all the posted before me so I hope I'm not repeating someone...
And if you have a 1980 the curtains are different then in the diagrams dew to the style of cutains all round
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cris torlasco wrote:
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Head to your local JoAnn's curtain hardware aisle and pick up http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-1-2-14-pkg/prd50589/ . The inside diameter of the originals is 1/2" (don't know if the Dritz measurement is ID or OD, so you might need the 3/4" version).


I had only found 1/2' diameter at JoAnn's, which are too small. Didn't know they had 3/4" available online (http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-3-4-14-pkg/prd50916/), but paying the $5.95 for shipping seems extreme. I will see if they can be ordered from the store. Wonder if they are strong enough for the task...Thanks for the tip.

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These 3/4" rings are exactly the size I used with my new curtains
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As i said before in this thread, I have the rings. Mine attach to the B and C pillars not to door at all.

What other curtain hanging methods are there since I am making new curtains right now, I think I would rather have them attached to the door since I want them closed most of the time to keep heat out of the van. If I hang them similarly to the rear door will they interfere with opening the slider?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... What other curtain hanging methods are there since I am making new curtains right now, I think I would rather have them attached to the door since I want them closed most of the time to keep heat out of the van. If I hang them similarly to the rear door will they interfere with opening the slider?

Mine do not interfere ...

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The curtain rod is like the on the on the top in this classified:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1235129
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... Didn't know they had 3/4" available online (http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-3-4-14-pkg/prd50916/), but paying the $5.95 for shipping seems extreme...


Id the 3/4" ID or OD?

Cris -- I have some rings that are 1" OD and 11/16" ID that look plenty stout enogh for the task. Heading out the door in a minute so no time to get a pic but if those would work I'd send you some.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or there's always the real low-rent approach. Our elastic just has little loops tied in the ends... I've untied 'em and tied 'em a bit tighter a couple of times - the elastic's nearing the end of it's days, and seems to have more stretch than return.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanband was the original mfg. of the Campmobile curtain lower tie backs--


VW pt. # 255 070 405 B, #255 070 405 C, #255 070 405 D ( for the sliding door.)
No elastic, no hog rings, no posts.
Cables.
They were and are in my 3 campmobiles.

I don't know where you guys came up with the outsourced stuff---

Maybe VW of Budabest perhaps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange how the B and C pillar posts for our sliding door elastic are EXACTLY the same as those in the other pics. When we bought this van, it was still on German plates. Sure, the plastic rings have gone AWOL over the years, but...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like various Vanagon outfitters did things their own way. After all Vanagon is just the mfg vehicle bare as is. Campmobile, Westfalia, Country Homes, ASI (Riviera), etc... might have done things different and even different years may have made a decision.

This conversation isn't really going anywhere is it? Everyone is correct, everyone has/had what they've reported. There were differences for sure has been established Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry Kay wrote:
Spanband was the original mfg. of the Campmobile curtain lower tie backs--


VW pt. # 255 070 405 B, #255 070 405 C, #255 070 405 D ( for the sliding door.)
No elastic, no hog rings, no posts.
Cables.
They were and are in my 3 campmobiles.

I don't know where you guys came up with the outsourced stuff---

Maybe VW of Budabest perhaps.


Just because YOUR "campmobiles" don't have the pegs/rings, doesn't mean others are not genuine factory-produced. Your vans don't have them, hundreds (if not thousands) of others do. Accept it and move on; stop arguing about trivial differences. You're beginning to sound like the Porsche 356 elitists who refuse to believe Porsche put amber turn signals on USA-bound cars. Brick wall
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just look at the dude's "campmobile" in his avatar ... He really needs one of THESE tests ...
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