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1971BugGuy Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2004 Posts: 426 Location: Ontario, CANADA
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:16 am Post subject: |
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My 1986 Weekender sliding door curtain retainers with elastic (replaced) and original plastic loops:
_________________ Only a fool or a child would judge a project before it reaches its completion.
1971 Super Beetle
1986 Vanagon Westfalia Weekender |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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My 84 Westfalia GL Wolsburg Edition had the original in good condition curtains with that plastic loop, elastic hem and loop recipient. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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madspaniard Samba Member

Joined: August 18, 2008 Posts: 3795 Location: Alameda, CA
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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SCM wrote: |
kamzcab86 wrote: |
Pegs, both sides of the sliding door opening
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That's what mine has too. And I don't think it's an East vs West coast thing like Kerry suggests as my van was originally purchased from a dealer in Georgia.
Edit to add: f'n-A. Multiple pages about how a curtain hangs, I can't believe I got sucked into this.  |
Same here. T.K., you must have Chinese knockoff versions of the Westy , I remember another thread where you said you also did not have and had never seen those stock little grey rubber bumpers in the stove lid that are supposed to eliminate rattling noise. _________________ 1991 Westy auto w/ Peloquin TBD
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BoneMachine Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2012 Posts: 202 Location: MA, Boston Strong
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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1971BugGuy wrote: |
My 1986 Weekender sliding door curtain retainers with elastic (replaced) and original plastic loops:
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1971BigGuy,
That's the exact setup that my 1985 Weekender came with. There seems to be a pattern here.................... 8^) _________________ '85 Wolfsburg Edition Westfalia Weekender, Zetec #36, w/ Peloquin TBD
'83.5 Westfalia, full camper (we'll never forget you) |
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Terry Kay Banned

Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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<<Same here. T.K., you must have Chinese knockoff versions of the Westy>>
X-3
<< you also did not have and had never seen those stock little grey rubber bumpers in the stove lid that are supposed to eliminate rattling noise.>>
X-3 that own, plus a bunch that I have personnaly seen--looked at & touched.
The midwest must have been shiped them all them outsourced Vanagon Campmobiles--From Bangladesh, or Cassablaca maybe. _________________ T.K. |
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1971BugGuy Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2004 Posts: 426 Location: Ontario, CANADA
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
The midwest must have been shiped them all them outsourced Vanagon Campmobiles--From Bangladesh, or Cassablaca maybe. |
I guess that includes us Canadians too. At least those of us in the Greater Toronto Area since I know of at least 2 others with this setup. The ID. plate that reads Wesfalia-Werke, Wiedenbrück Germany must be a forgery. Hmmmm.
or possibly....
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Sombody took the time to sew them plastic rings into your curtains.
They sure didn't come that way hot off the press. |
That "somebody" sure was busy! _________________ Only a fool or a child would judge a project before it reaches its completion.
1971 Super Beetle
1986 Vanagon Westfalia Weekender |
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cris torlasco Samba Member

Joined: November 08, 2000 Posts: 1363 Location: Delmar, NY/Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Don't mind TK, the years go by and the guy doesn't change. Stating the rings are not original, Weekenders are not Westfalias, and pretending to have more knowledge than Wikipedia, suuurre...
Every single Vanagon Westfalia I've owned and seen had these rings and elastic in the sliding door curtain. The amount of documented cases in this thread proves that they were in fact an original set up. This doesn't mean that some might have not come like that from factory, for reasons that I don't know.
It would be so much better to say something like "Are these original? I had never seen them before", instead of coming down with a strong, uneducated statement mentioning that they are not original, no way, someone MUST have put them there!
I have been looking for the correct replacements for the plastic rings for a while, with no luck. I will try what was mentioned on page 1 of this thread. I had also thought about the key ring idea, sounds like it would work just fine.
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator

Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 8443 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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cris torlasco wrote: |
I have been looking for the correct replacements for the plastic rings for a while, with no luck. |
Head to your local JoAnn's curtain hardware aisle and pick up http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-1-2-14-pkg/prd50589/ . The inside diameter of the originals is 1/2" (don't know if the Dritz measurement is ID or OD, so you might need the 3/4" version). _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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cris torlasco Samba Member

Joined: November 08, 2000 Posts: 1363 Location: Delmar, NY/Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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I had only found 1/2' diameter at JoAnn's, which are too small. Didn't know they had 3/4" available online (http://www.joann.com/dritz-plastic-rings-3-4-14-pkg/prd50916/), but paying the $5.95 for shipping seems extreme. I will see if they can be ordered from the store. Wonder if they are strong enough for the task...Thanks for the tip.
Cris
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stampeed Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 58 Location: slc ut
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the middle of making my own curtains I found this web site helpful
http://www.vanagonwiki.net/wiki/Westy_curtains
And I don't have time to read all the posted before me so I hope I'm not repeating someone...
And if you have a 1980 the curtains are different then in the diagrams dew to the style of cutains all round _________________ "When I grow up I want to be a subagon!"
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Timwhy Samba Member

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an86carrera Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2007 Posts: 293 Location: Bradenton, FL
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
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As i said before in this thread, I have the rings. Mine attach to the B and C pillars not to door at all.
What other curtain hanging methods are there since I am making new curtains right now, I think I would rather have them attached to the door since I want them closed most of the time to keep heat out of the van. If I hang them similarly to the rear door will they interfere with opening the slider? _________________ Len
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GreenMachineVW Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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an86carrera wrote: |
... What other curtain hanging methods are there since I am making new curtains right now, I think I would rather have them attached to the door since I want them closed most of the time to keep heat out of the van. If I hang them similarly to the rear door will they interfere with opening the slider? |
Mine do not interfere ...
The curtain rod is like the on the on the top in this classified:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1235129
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Id the 3/4" ID or OD?
Cris -- I have some rings that are 1" OD and 11/16" ID that look plenty stout enogh for the task. Heading out the door in a minute so no time to get a pic but if those would work I'd send you some. |
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AdrianC Samba Member

Joined: January 13, 2012 Posts: 526 Location: Wherever the road's gone
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Or there's always the real low-rent approach. Our elastic just has little loops tied in the ends... I've untied 'em and tied 'em a bit tighter a couple of times - the elastic's nearing the end of it's days, and seems to have more stretch than return. _________________ Adrian
Zookeeper of a miscellany of motoring silliness, from 0.75bhp to 9ft tall.
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Terry Kay Banned

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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Spanband was the original mfg. of the Campmobile curtain lower tie backs--
VW pt. # 255 070 405 B, #255 070 405 C, #255 070 405 D ( for the sliding door.)
No elastic, no hog rings, no posts.
Cables.
They were and are in my 3 campmobiles.
I don't know where you guys came up with the outsourced stuff---
Maybe VW of Budabest perhaps. _________________ T.K. |
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AdrianC Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Strange how the B and C pillar posts for our sliding door elastic are EXACTLY the same as those in the other pics. When we bought this van, it was still on German plates. Sure, the plastic rings have gone AWOL over the years, but... _________________ Adrian
Zookeeper of a miscellany of motoring silliness, from 0.75bhp to 9ft tall.
Living life on the road in an '88 2.1DJ Westfalia Club Joker Hightop.
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DAIZEE Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like various Vanagon outfitters did things their own way. After all Vanagon is just the mfg vehicle bare as is. Campmobile, Westfalia, Country Homes, ASI (Riviera), etc... might have done things different and even different years may have made a decision.
This conversation isn't really going anywhere is it? Everyone is correct, everyone has/had what they've reported. There were differences for sure has been established  _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator

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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
Spanband was the original mfg. of the Campmobile curtain lower tie backs--
VW pt. # 255 070 405 B, #255 070 405 C, #255 070 405 D ( for the sliding door.)
No elastic, no hog rings, no posts.
Cables.
They were and are in my 3 campmobiles.
I don't know where you guys came up with the outsourced stuff---
Maybe VW of Budabest perhaps. |
Just because YOUR "campmobiles" don't have the pegs/rings, doesn't mean others are not genuine factory-produced. Your vans don't have them, hundreds (if not thousands) of others do. Accept it and move on; stop arguing about trivial differences. You're beginning to sound like the Porsche 356 elitists who refuse to believe Porsche put amber turn signals on USA-bound cars.  _________________ ~Kamz
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1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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GreenMachineVW Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Just look at the dude's "campmobile" in his avatar ... He really needs one of THESE tests ... |
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