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Pinetops
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 Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:35 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Very clean job on the vent window, well done.
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Thing3
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:36 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Putting those finish carpentry skills too great use. Awesome detailed work on some of the most difficult restoration tasks. Way to go Kurt
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glideking
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Peter_N
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Door window parts laid out |
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This project is awesome Kurt. Really inspiring!
I actually enjoyed putting back together the windows. I'm sure you will do too.
You're going to clean the stationary windows right 
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glideking
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:56 pm Post subject: Installing Wood Bed Slats |
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What...
I did clean them!
Bucked rivits, pop rivits and sheet metal screws were all used to fasten the wood. I do not like any of those options.
It killed me to drill into such a clean bed. I used a stick as a template to drill the bed and the slats.
I used stainless steel rivet nuts and screws. 6mm. Metric stainless pan head SLOTED screws are not common.
240 sticky back sand paper inside half a plastic pipe made quick work of sanding the slats.
I cut the bottom of the center slat to conform to the overlap in the center of the bed.
Now I get to varnish them.
Kurt
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V-Dub Guy
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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| Amazing job Kurt!!!! Did you buy the wood slats or make them? |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Being that you are a wood worker. Is there any product you might soak the wood slats to keep water that gets on and under them from soaking into the wood?
Have seen others in the past cap a 3" or so diameter piece of plastic pipe that is long enough to soak each piece of wood in various sealers.
Have thought of using butyl rubber to seal between each slat and the bed to help keep water from just staying there over long periods.
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glideking
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Good question.
The best wood for this application is teak or ipe with an oil applied yearly. I used ipe for the tilt where it does not show as much. Oak is a terrible wood to use out doors. It stains, rots and splits. Bugs love it and so do we. Preservatives only last as long as the preservative does. Under UV light that is not long. There is no oil that can save oak. I used oak because that is correct and beautiful. I used spar varnish because that will last about as long as the oak does. Being a woodworker I can keep myself supplied with new oak indefinitely. I chose stainless steel rivet nuts and screws as a permanent way to easily replace the oak. The rivet nuts leave an air space under the slats. A gasket or sealer under them will keep the wood from drying out quickly and accelerate decay.
Kurt
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight=
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ryans65
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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| Rivnuts are really cool, I find uses for them all the time. Your slats look great, as does the rest of the truck! |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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| glideking wrote: |
| The rivet nuts leave an air space under the slats. A gasket or sealer under them will keep the wood from drying out quickly and accelerate decay. |
Problem is the dirt, dust, grit will get under the slats and cause water to be held under them. While the first two will probably be pressure washed out, the grit (AKA tiny rocks) will more likely just get trapped in there....
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KombiMadness
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Kurt, I just went through this process 8 months ago with my '59 truck. I debated, researched and reviewed how to install the new oak wood slats on the pick up bed.....
I ended up going for aluminium Riv Nuts over the original self tappers (I believe later pick ups had the slats riveted). Why? Self tappers going through thin sheet metal thread or 'pull' easily and the steel can corrode. With Riv Nuts (or Nut Serts) you can remove the slats as many times as you want for maintenance/paint touch ups of the tray or easy, all over re-oiling of the oak slats. With self tappers, once you unscrew/rescrew a few times, you're sure to thread the metal.
I did this 8 months ago and I'm not regretting my choice.... 
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KombiMadness
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Hi Kurt,
I'm a professional sailing skipper and instructor. I've spent many years sailing the seven seas and teaching people how to be safe and maintain their vessels, so I'm well versed on galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals. It's a problem on modern yachts that are constantly being drenched by salt water with aluminium spars and other bits that have 'stainless' steel fixings through the aluminium but not much of a problem with land based equipment that stays mostly dry or rained on occasionally. Fresh water doesn't promote galvanic corrosion like salt water. Boats in salt water are also particularly vulnerable to galvanic corrosion being exacerbated by stray electrical current in the water (marinas) and that becomes electrolysis.
So unless you intend to drive on the beach, it's not an issue. Think of all the stuff or equipment you've seen on land where dissimilar metals have been in contact for decades and there is no corrosion....
Stainless steel Riv Nuts would be better but I used the alu ones for ease of compressing with the Riv Nut tool (and to save a few bucks).
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:12 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Love the rivnut idea. The holes on my truck's bed have been sans-rivets for years and the edges of the holes have eroded, but the rest of the bed is extremely solid. That rivnut idea would allow me to fit slats without having to grind each hole, weld it up and re-drill it. It's brilliant!
Re using teak for the slats - are there any species that don't turn red-brown when oiled or varnished? It's a timber colour that always reminds me of my parents furniture in the 70s (I'm sure they thought it was stylish at the time  )
Well done on getting funky truck on the road again.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Love the attention to detail Kurt; that half dado cut in the center slat is genius!
Keep up the great work. |
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tonyx
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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I give you top marks for your project Kurt 1959/1959 = 100%
With all the slat talk going on I was thinking if you installed a little peg or something like your rivet deal on each end (maybe one in the middle too?) where the slats lay to keep them in place (without perforating the topside of your slat) and countersinking rare earth magnets on the underside of your slats to hold them tightly to the deck?!?! I know , I know , I don't get paid to think |
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BulliBill
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: Re: 1959 Single Cab Restoration Thread "Funky Truck" |
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Freakin' beautiful work on that SC !
I was dreading the assembly of the vent glass to the frames and then the cab window assembly and mounting them to the cab door, but when it came down to doing it all on my '59 DC build, all went surprisingly well. I used a borrowed old version of the wood vent frame jig that you built and it worked awesome also! Nice work on the chiseled dental pick tool, you should crank out a couple more of those for sale! I'd buy one for sure for my next window job! Awesome detail! What skills!
It's exciting to see how close to finished you are! I'll see you and Funky Truck in two weekends!
Bill
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