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vdubjim
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: How to tell the hole is a 3 fold? |
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I did a search, Didnt really see any infos.
I have a ribbed door semaphore car, unknown year, how can i tell if its a 2 fold or 3? |
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52brezelfenster
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Jim, would it be helpful to measure the size of the opening front to back? I have a 3 fold car here and could put a tape measurer on it.
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| 52brezelfenster wrote: |
Jim, would it be helpful to measure the size of the opening front to back? I have a 3 fold car here and could put a tape measurer on it.
Dustin |
Is it known that the front to back opening changed in dimension?
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john7
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions
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vdubjim
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| john7 wrote: |
just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions |
so its perfectly square?? |
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Yustrn
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Fastest way is to see if there is a straight little metal lip at the front of it all the way across if it's more of a rounded hump then it's 2 fold.
Jim send me a pic and I can help you out.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| john7 wrote: |
just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions |
I have a 1959 2 fold here in the garage, no trim, no mechanism and it measures......
29 3/16" wide on the inside lip where the headliner would connect
36 " long at the center, also where the headliner would connect
Both of these dimensions can vary a little depending upon how bent in or how far out the metal teeth that grip the headliner are. By vary I mean maybe an 1/8" max either way.
The 59 2 fold hole is for sure the same hole as the LATE (3rd version) 56 2 fold roof. I am not sure about the 2 earlier 56 versions and what their exact dimensions are. I suspect the 2nd version has the same size as the 3rd but am not 100% sure.
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| vdubjim wrote: |
| john7 wrote: |
just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions |
so its perfectly square?? |
???? no 
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john7
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| vdubjim wrote: |
| john7 wrote: |
just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions |
so its perfectly square?? |
no look at the measurements i posted again, maybe you mis read them. it is 12 3/4" longer than it is wide
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| john7 wrote: |
just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions |
I have a 1959 2 fold here in the garage, no trim, no mechanism and it measures......
29 3/16" wide on the inside lip where the headliner would connect
36 " long at the center, also where the headliner would connect
Both of these dimensions can vary a little depending upon how bent in or how far out the metal teeth that grip the headliner are. By vary I mean maybe an 1/8" max either way.
The 59 2 fold hole is for sure the same hole as the LATE (3rd version) 56 2 fold roof. I am not sure about the 2 earlier 56 versions and what their exact dimensions are. I suspect the 2nd version has the same size as the 3rd but am not 100% sure.
Dave |
i measured on the outside of the car with no mechanism installed on a 55 bug. edge to edge right in the center of the hole each direction.(front to back and side to side)
from inside the car the hole measures 43 1/2 x 29
i dont have a 2 fold car around to measure
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A pic taken at BBT. We see the difference in size.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| 52brezelfenster wrote: |
Jim, would it be helpful to measure the size of the opening front to back? I have a 3 fold car here and could put a tape measurer on it.
Dustin |
Is it known that the front to back opening changed in dimension? |
I think you should have to go back and repeat a semester of "Oval Window 101".
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