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TX_Mason Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: Richporter SVDA Distributor |
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I've been hiding in the shadows here for a while, watching and learning. This site, people and info are phenominal. Thanks to everyone for sharing what they know.
I have a 73 Super, stock 1600DP with a 30/31 carb and 009 dist. 2 Weeks ago, I pulled my motor for the first time to fix a couple of leaks. Long story short, replaced one bent pushrod, two majorly cracked heads, clutch and flywheel. Drives much better know. Next is to upgrade the fuel and ignition system.
I manage an auto parts store and my question is, does anyone have any experience with Richporter Technologies ignitions. The VW10 model is listed as an SVDA with electronic ignition and coil. They are new, not rebuilt, and no core required. The price is decent too, but other than their website, I know nothing about them.
I ordered in one of these and took a look at it, and it does seem to be well built.
Being this close to Christmas, I can't get that and a new carb together and I'm just wondering if it will make any difference with the 30/31 I have. I've read the stickies about the low vacuum advance issues, but nothing about this particular company compared to OEM is mentioned.
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Well, the reason you don't know much about them is because there isn't much about them to know. Offices in Champlain, NY and Montreal, CA, employs 5 people, but claims ISO certification on their manufacturing (which is clearly outsourced.) The provide parts for a wide variety of moderl vehicles; the distributor is the only thing they make for the ACVW.
I'm willing to hazard, given the thin information on the company (it took me 20 minutes of digging to come up with the above) it likely licenses designs and technologies from yet other companies and has the parts made overseas. (Not always a bad thing.) _________________ "Consistent maintenance with quality products is the cheapest warranty you'll ever need."
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borninabus  Samba R&D Dept.

Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4717 Location: Arizona Highways
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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not familiar with the brand of SVDA you are referring to but there are new units being manufactured--somewhere--eh-hem--china.
that being said; the unit is better than nothing.
i have never seen any aftermarket part that is as high quality or lasts as long or works as well as an OG (OEM) genuine VW part.
even if you have to put a little elbow grease into cleaning it up or fully rebuilding it.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=864718 _________________ 88 Van WBX, A/T - 13 JSW TDI 6M/T - 2012 Touareg TDI Sport |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79415 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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No, this is some other kind of animal.
_________________ "Consistent maintenance with quality products is the cheapest warranty you'll ever need."
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webwalker Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I ain't sayin' this is good quality, nor junk. I don't know. And I don't know the source. Merely that it is unlikely to be made in the West.
M _________________ "Consistent maintenance with quality products is the cheapest warranty you'll ever need."
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79415 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Interesting... I wonder what the curve is. _________________ Glenn
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TX_Mason Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I'm kind of wondering too. What I do know is the company is based out of Canada, I couldn't find any markings to give away where its made, they've only been in business about 12 years and they are also selling MAF sensors and other minor electronics.
More importantly, given the price it's a steal at $126.00 (plus my employee discount). But I'm still not sure if I want to invest in it, if I'll still be having trouble because of the H30/31 carb. |
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DrDarby Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2004 Posts: 6541 Location: Northern Illinois
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Me thinks you should send it to Glenn to test the curve etc and if it works out you can offer these on the Samba. _________________ Midwest Autosavers, Inc. Crystal Lake, IL |
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Darby,
I think that's a pretty sweet idea. TX, you might have a real business opportunity here. And Glenn has the gear and the eye to give it a real going over and report on its quality.
I'm actually surprised one of the major vendors (CIP1/MAMW) hasn't picked this thing up yet.
M _________________ "Consistent maintenance with quality products is the cheapest warranty you'll ever need."
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79415 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the problem is that it does not use points, so I would need special electronics to test it. _________________ Glenn
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gooser Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2008 Posts: 766 Location: danville virginia
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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most around here seem to like the one made by aircooled.net. and they claim that it will work with a 30/31. why not just go that route? |
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TX_Mason Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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For those that may be interested, I went ahead and put in the dist. this morning. If it didn't work, I could always return it.
The results so far; I timed it in at about 7.5 degrees, adjusted the idle speed and the mixture a bit and reconfirmed my timing. (BTW, the timing with no load in the driveway advances to about 30 degrees).
Went out for my first test drive and it was beautiful. Smooth response across the board. I did some low speed hard acceleration (floored it at 30 in 4th) and it never missed a beat. Slow and fast stop sign take offs were both smooth.
Next is the longevity test. We'll see how it does.
In the meantime, $126.00 got me an SVDA with electronic ignition, cap, rotor and a matched coil. If anyone would like to try one of these, I can help you track one down at a local parts store. As of right now, it's so new to the company that I snagged the only one in north Texas.
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jwa Samba Member
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Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 1022 Location: inside the barrel...
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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why don't you use your connections with the nwo to remanufacture german made aircooled parts _________________ It is what it is. |
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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"the electronics"
yes. what about the rest of the bits that usually spin at 2000rpm and wear out?
still, better than nothing I suppose. If more ACVW owners were willing to spring for a buck fifty, we'd have less of the perpetual crying about 'how crummy my bug runs' from the surfeit of 009s in the world.
M _________________ "Consistent maintenance with quality products is the cheapest warranty you'll ever need."
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Miss Bea and Me Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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TX_Mason wrote: |
The results so far; I timed it in at about 7.5 degrees, adjusted the idle speed and the mixture a bit and reconfirmed my timing. (BTW, the timing with no load in the driveway advances to about 30 degrees). |
Have you timed cylinder 3? Would be interesting to know if they retarded it 5 degrees. |
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gooser Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2008 Posts: 766 Location: danville virginia
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Miss Bea and Me wrote: |
TX_Mason wrote: |
The results so far; I timed it in at about 7.5 degrees, adjusted the idle speed and the mixture a bit and reconfirmed my timing. (BTW, the timing with no load in the driveway advances to about 30 degrees). |
Have you timed cylinder 3? Would be interesting to know if they retarded it 5 degrees. |
huh? |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79415 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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gooser wrote: |
Miss Bea and Me wrote: |
TX_Mason wrote: |
The results so far; I timed it in at about 7.5 degrees, adjusted the idle speed and the mixture a bit and reconfirmed my timing. (BTW, the timing with no load in the driveway advances to about 30 degrees). |
Have you timed cylinder 3? Would be interesting to know if they retarded it 5 degrees. |
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On some VW distributors the lobe on #3 is retarded 3-4 degrees so that #3 runs cooler. _________________ Glenn
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