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72KYLE Samba Member
Joined: June 08, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: 4 barrel manifold. |
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"Hey Kyle,
I had Dual 44 Webers but I got tired of the damn jets plugging up all the damn time.
So, I looked for an alternative & tired this intake. It is absolutely awesome. It runs on 2 barrels until you want to get into it, and then all hell breaks loose !! I can turn over 31.50 15 tires in 1st., 2nd & 3rd. I haven't tried 4th yet. It has so damn much power now, it's crazy. You can actually hear it through the exhaust. I put on over 800 miles this past season, trouble free, most of which was run on trails & sand up North in the Michigan woods.
You won't be disappointed. Here's the link to show you what I bought on eBay."
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-4-BARREL-INTAKE-MANIFOL...mp;vxp=mtr _________________ my bug build
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=380391
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ive seen that on flebay, now if you just had intake end peices that would flow as much as the motor needed, but if it's a small motor and dosent require more flow there good to go.Ive run duels for about 80 years now with 1 pluged jet as I recall, but I keep good filters&outer wears on my stuff .and living right hear by the ocean of mexiaco where the sand is so fine it's like powder might have something to do with it also,(the beach sand isant realy sand, it's quarts dust or mica dust something like that, snow white powder.no not the majick dust thats gets off raindeers. a good carb does wonders for a good motor, a junk carb, can make junk out of good motors too. |
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72KYLE Samba Member
Joined: June 08, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: California
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:10 am Post subject: |
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yes, it certainly is "interesting", to have an intake with four barrel carb with less HP potential than kadrons.
I am always up to discuss alternative arrangements........ but dude, that is stupid |
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72KYLE Samba Member
Joined: June 08, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: California
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:33 am Post subject: |
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To be honest with you, in my head was forming an extensive technical explanation about the thing. But instead I wrote "stupid", because for one thing it's a hell of a lot shorter, and also because you didn't ask any actual question. |
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fastwagens Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 1028 Location: Michigan (The other west coast)
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:48 am Post subject: |
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what size carb is in the video. Im thinking of playing around with a 4 barrel with a mechanical secondary |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:06 am Post subject: |
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I'm with Mark on this one ,I have a Predator carb on a 1915 turbo and It's like a toilet flushing when u get on it switching to a 40 DCOE all the N/a 4 barrels I've seen run like ass _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15314 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Hate to pull your chain but it was proven 30 years ago that a 4bbl does not work on a VW engine. All you youngsters are welcome to waste your time and money relearning what we learned many years ago. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK |
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lostinbaja Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2004 Posts: 4036 Location: Frankfort, Illinois
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: |
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What is the idle RPM? _________________ Jerry...
If it's being towed, it must be a trailer!
"Vee Grow Too Soon Oldt Und Too Late Schmardt"
RIP Morgan
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-Alex77- Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2008 Posts: 513 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I vote that this is stupidest vw build at year 2013
Are some rednecks actually buying this SHIT?
2 or 4 four barrel with plenum intake is always much worse than single throat per cylinder = dual 2-barrel carbs. _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2232 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I knew a guy that tried a Johnny's 4 Play on his drag bug and claimed it went 2 seconds slower. I got this info after seeing it for sale on his swap meet table. _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
Let’s go O’s! Let’s go O’s!
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes people that do not bother to study history are doomed to repeat it.
There is a Sucker born every minute.
This way to see the Egress. _________________ Joseph
Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
Elrod Motorsports
Motion Tire Motorsports
Having fun with Dune Buggies since 1970
Into Volkswagens since 1960 |
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Jon65 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2012 Posts: 2417
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it's interesting and I can see where the theory behind it might've sounded good...
But seriously, if you want 4 barrels, do it the right way and get dual carbs. |
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DarthWeber Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2007 Posts: 7543 Location: Whittier,CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I can't wait to see the new empi dual 4 bbl carb kit! _________________
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Swapped the Compufire for a Bosch blue and some points I had sitting around, started 1st crank. Took her out for a drive, pulls harder, more RPM, and runs smoother. I think I'll be sticking with points from now on. |
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JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:52 am Post subject: |
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first off 4 bbls do work on these motors very well, as I have them on my bug but there is 2 bbls over each head feading each cylinder independntly,(empty hpmxrsidflomnop). yes a motor can be made to work well with a four barrell in the center. a four barrell over each head would also be nice if it was the corect size and the intakes made corectly, but it would take a good amount of fab work&room in the engine compartment.would it be better than a 48 ida? possiably. could it be tuned for street driving better?probably. but I dont think what is in this add is going to set to world on fire. if it were made from the carb to the heads corectly yes it would be a nice peice..... |
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fastwagens Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 1028 Location: Michigan (The other west coast)
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:28 am Post subject: |
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the same things are said about the holley bugspray. i ran a bugspray for a couple years on a 1600 with great results. (not including fuel econemy).
i now run some dell 45's on a 1915, and i am very happy with that.
i like to try things out even if it said to have been sone before. im always up for a challange and the advancements on carbs have come along way.
why not try its fun. |
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:39 am Post subject: |
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If you think that manifold will work with no drivability problems then you must be able to shit through a straw too. _________________ Joseph
Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
Elrod Motorsports
Motion Tire Motorsports
Having fun with Dune Buggies since 1970
Into Volkswagens since 1960 |
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Jimmy111 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2006 Posts: 2643 Location: Wyoming
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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There was a good 4 barrel manifold many years ago but it disapeared.
The main problem is not the carb but lack of carb heat |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20386 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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A four barrel is dual Weber IDF's or IDA's....
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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