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Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:31 pm

I tought I would start a thread discussing the the correctness of 1954 and 1955 engines please be specific as possible thanks

Nice summary of a lot of parts from another member:
laneven28 wrote: Correct BR3T distributor for a February car

3-hole Engine tin - breastplate, cylinder tin & heater boxes. Note the cylinder tin also has side caps that are welded on - they were stamped in on later versions (not sure when exactly)

54 heater boxes are similar to split window (also 3 hole), but are missing the flap for the X plate. You can see the difference here - split on the left, 54 on the right

Correct coil should be a Bosch TE6A3 - note the small date stamp just above the coil # - 4L (April '55)

Correct Bosch generator & regulator, note date code on each 3K (March 54)

Correct weld nuts on fan shroud (inside at bottom of both ends), throttle ring (pictured), backside of wire tube clamps, and bottom side of cylinder tin

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:07 pm

what engine?

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:13 pm

steven wood wrote: what engine?

:oops: OOPS I MEANT THIS ONE :oops:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=319515

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:17 pm

Well it has the single strap air cleaner and the round top regulator. I believe that both of these were used in '54 and '55. Have you talked to Todd about shipping it?

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:24 pm

Lower crank pulley & fuel pump are 1956-later style. The crank pulley should have no rolled lip on the outside edge. The fuel pump should have a domed top, not a removeable Brass fitting as shown.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:35 pm

WHAT ABOUT THE TIN WARE LIKE THE SHROUD AND ESPECIALLY THE GENERATOR

SO FAR THANKS STEVEN AND GLENN FOR THE REPLY

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:48 pm

vdubinit wrote: WHAT ABOUT THE TIN WARE LIKE THE SHROUD AND ESPECIALLY THE GENERATOR

Generator & fan shroud look correct. The fan housing (1953-55) should NOT have a square dimple behind the aircleaner, and I don't see one on that particular motor.
The generator should be a thin slot generator. In the pics, the generator has the louvered cover so it's not visible.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:13 pm

Carburetor stand should have a rounded edge and not two flat sides.

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:22 pm

53 0val wrote: Carburetor stand should have a rounded edge and not two flat sides.

so is the intake manifold wrong also ???

Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:19 am

vdubinit wrote: 53 0val wrote: Carburetor stand should have a rounded edge and not two flat sides.

so is the intake manifold wrong also ???

The "stand" I'm referring to is the little piece of metal that supports the carb from the front. Not the whole manifold. :?

Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:20 am

God damn Glen and Bob :shock: You guys really do know some shit about this little cars......Good job guys :D

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:48 am

Rich's 50 wrote: God damn Glen and Bob :shock: You guys really do know some shit about this little cars......Good job guys :D

these two guys are aces at this stuff thanks both of you for the help i think its time to call forward air and set up a delivery time
thanks for the help :D

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:50 am

steven wood wrote: Well it has the single strap air cleaner and the round top regulator. I believe that both of these were used in '54 and '55. Have you talked to Todd about shipping it?

yes i have for a few days now just haven't recieved any emails back from him in the past day or so :?:
i want it for sure

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:52 am

The 54-55 fuel pump has a wavy top.

Sort of a poor photo:

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:53 am

I think it should have the thin outer upper generator pulley too.

And of course the fuel line from the fuel pump to the carburetor is totally messed up.

Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:24 pm

i was just wondering is this engine even a 1954 engine or is it a early 55 engine
from the samba vins oval info thread
i got these numbers for decenber of 1954 meaning the last few 1954 engines ended with 945 526 and only 6 total numbers

now the engine in the ad with serial number 1-0921258 wouldn't it be a may of 1955 engine and not a ""1954"" engine
this is just info i collected from the samba http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

correct me if Im wrong I just don't want to spend the money if its not right for mt 54 vert thanks guys

Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:16 pm

vdubinit wrote: the engine in the ad with serial number 1-0921258 wouldn't it be a may of 1955 engine and not a ""1954"" engine
this is just info i collected from the samba http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

correct me if Im wrong I just don't want to spend the money if its not right for mt 54 vert thanks guys

1-0921258 is a Dec 1954. 1-0921247 through 1-0945526 were all made in Dec of 1954

Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:19 pm

Thanks for correcting me

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:49 am

Just a little question, The add says that the engine for sale LOOKS like this one. The photos are not of the one for sale. Get some of the one for sale before you buy it, It may be even more incorrect. Just my 2 cents OLDOVAL

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:24 pm

The pics that are on Todd's ad is of the '54 engine. The engine that is for sale now is a '55. He's using the '54 pics to sell the '55 engine.