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MURZI Samba Member

Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 5066 Location: Madisonville, La
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: Longer clutch arm |
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I have to swap the tranny in my BAJA...no sure what happened Anyway while I am in there I am thinking of cutting the stock clutch arm and lengthening it to reduce pedal pressure. Does 100mm from center to center sound right...should I go longer?? Bruce???
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have the 100 arm on mine it's great .and relubing the peddels&cable , new bowden,helped a lot too. I need a long one for my rino trans, but with the price jump on the long arms Ill just have to make one.
if you go longer you may not have enough peddel travel. |
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Hotrodvw Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2004 Posts: 6327 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I got mine from Bruce. It's a great mod, esp. if you run a clutch heavier than stock. It eases the force required at the pedal, and also helps reduce stress on the cable and hook. I believe mine is a 100mm also. _________________ '67 Sunroof
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gprudenciop Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 606 Location: portland or
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 100mm one that I just removed.you can have it if you want! Pm me address and its yours!! |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17586 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Longer clutch arm |
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MURZI wrote: |
Does 100mm from center to center sound right...should I go longer?? Bruce??? |
Be brave, go longer. Measure the clearance between the tip of your existing one and the package tray. That's the limit for those that are afraid to use hammers. _________________
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I had no issue with clearance but the cable bracket needs sloting so it can be adjusted for a better pulling angle with the longer arm.I had thought about making a pivoting bracket so it would fallow the arc and less wear of the bowden tube&cable. |
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chrisflstf Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 4035 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Slotting the cable tube bracket only works on trans that have a removeable bracket. Most are cast into the side cover, in which case the cable will wear more at the top, due to the longer arm |
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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cut off the bracket & add longer studs and an irs type bracket. |
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mcmscott Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2010 Posts: 4926 Location: sanger ca
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: |
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This is what I did to the ghia. It has a long arm and a 1 inch torsion raise |
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yamaducci Samba Member

Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 2373 Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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AC.n sells a long arm as seen in my gallery. I just did the conversion . _________________ -John Cox
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17832 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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back from the dead
just wondering, would extending the arm change the throw on the cross shaft/throw out bearing? I am thinking about doing a longer arm and was just wondering what (if any) consequences there may be _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Hotrodvw Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2004 Posts: 6327 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I installed mine about 4 years ago, zero negative effects what so ever. It does make a noticeable difference. _________________ '67 Sunroof
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27661 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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It does shorten the throw but with a good PP it's no problem.
I made an early one, 4", two welded together. Even put the holes in it cause I wanna be cool like Bruce.
With my 9-spring PP I could make it 6" long and still have enough travel. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17832 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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it is a kennedy stage 1 with a copperhead disk. any reason to worry? and what is the length overall? I keep seeing 100mm, but is that hole-to-hole or a overall measurement?
I have not been able to find out that tidbit of info
here is what I have
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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rs58rag Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2010 Posts: 419 Location: riverside,ca
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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100 mm long clutch arm = easier clutch pedal and release better timed and predictable with stage 1. Also, weld reinforce clutch tube behind ebrake handle and check welds at front and back of clutch tube. |
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27661 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think center to center. I'll check, guess what I'm doin tonight..........swappin transmission  |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17832 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:03 am Post subject: |
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that would be great! I would like to know as I may make one (have a bunch kicking around) but I have not checked the availability of them either.
some threads (old ones) mention that they were out of stock everywhere, but they were pretty old threads _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27661 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I got:
1968-75mm
1975-100mm
One I lengthened-87mm
center to center |
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
back from the dead
just wondering, would extending the arm change the throw on the cross shaft/throw out bearing? I am thinking about doing a longer arm and was just wondering what (if any) consequences there may be |
The longer arm will result in more peddle travel for a given throwout bearing travel. If the peddle travel is kept the same, the throwout bearing will move less. _________________ Help Prevent VW Engine Fires, see this link.....Engine safety wire information
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17832 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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modok wrote: |
I got:
1968-75mm
1975-100mm
One I lengthened-87mm
center to center |
thanks!
center to center being from the cross shaft hole to the wingnut hole, correct? I know the wingnut hole is a bit oval, that's why I ask.
I was also afraid if I made it too long that it may over extend the throw out bearing, messing with the pressure plate _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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