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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Longer clutch arm Reply with quote

I have to swap the tranny in my BAJA...no sure what happened Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Anyway while I am in there I am thinking of cutting the stock clutch arm and lengthening it to reduce pedal pressure. Does 100mm from center to center sound right...should I go longer?? Bruce???

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 100 arm on mine it's great .and relubing the peddels&cable , new bowden,helped a lot too. I need a long one for my rino trans, but with the price jump on the long arms Ill just have to make one.
if you go longer you may not have enough peddel travel.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got mine from Bruce. It's a great mod, esp. if you run a clutch heavier than stock. It eases the force required at the pedal, and also helps reduce stress on the cable and hook. I believe mine is a 100mm also.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 100mm one that I just removed.you can have it if you want! Pm me address and its yours!!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Longer clutch arm Reply with quote

MURZI wrote:
Does 100mm from center to center sound right...should I go longer?? Bruce???
Be brave, go longer. Measure the clearance between the tip of your existing one and the package tray. That's the limit for those that are afraid to use hammers.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no issue with clearance but the cable bracket needs sloting so it can be adjusted for a better pulling angle with the longer arm.I had thought about making a pivoting bracket so it would fallow the arc and less wear of the bowden tube&cable.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slotting the cable tube bracket only works on trans that have a removeable bracket. Most are cast into the side cover, in which case the cable will wear more at the top, due to the longer arm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cut off the bracket & add longer studs and an irs type bracket.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is what I did to the ghia. It has a long arm and a 1 inch torsion raise
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AC.n sells a long arm as seen in my gallery. I just did the conversion .
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

back from the dead Laughing

just wondering, would extending the arm change the throw on the cross shaft/throw out bearing? I am thinking about doing a longer arm and was just wondering what (if any) consequences there may be
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed mine about 4 years ago, zero negative effects what so ever. It does make a noticeable difference.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does shorten the throw but with a good PP it's no problem.
I made an early one, 4", two welded together. Even put the holes in it cause I wanna be cool like Bruce.

With my 9-spring PP I could make it 6" long and still have enough travel.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is a kennedy stage 1 with a copperhead disk. any reason to worry? and what is the length overall? I keep seeing 100mm, but is that hole-to-hole or a overall measurement?

I have not been able to find out that tidbit of info

here is what I have

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copper head disk and hd p/p:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100 mm long clutch arm = easier clutch pedal and release better timed and predictable with stage 1. Also, weld reinforce clutch tube behind ebrake handle and check welds at front and back of clutch tube.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think center to center. I'll check, guess what I'm doin tonight..........swappin transmission Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would be great! I would like to know as I may make one (have a bunch kicking around) but I have not checked the availability of them either.

some threads (old ones) mention that they were out of stock everywhere, but they were pretty old threads
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got:
1968-75mm
1975-100mm

One I lengthened-87mm

center to center
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
back from the dead Laughing

just wondering, would extending the arm change the throw on the cross shaft/throw out bearing? I am thinking about doing a longer arm and was just wondering what (if any) consequences there may be


The longer arm will result in more peddle travel for a given throwout bearing travel. If the peddle travel is kept the same, the throwout bearing will move less.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

modok wrote:
I got:
1968-75mm
1975-100mm

One I lengthened-87mm

center to center


thanks!

center to center being from the cross shaft hole to the wingnut hole, correct? I know the wingnut hole is a bit oval, that's why I ask.

I was also afraid if I made it too long that it may over extend the throw out bearing, messing with the pressure plate
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