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Jacob-A-Smith Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:14 pm Post subject: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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I bought a 1960 beetle about 3 months ago and I have the frame close to fully restored but I want to keep the original paint on the body. I was wondering what I should use to preserve the original paint or if I should just repaint it. The only problem with keeping the original patina is that I need to replace the heater channels and the rear fenders so it may be hard to blend the paint.
I don’t know who cut the rear fenders like this but whoever did it committed a crime by doing it.
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Dibaltic Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 564 Location: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Nice patina on that car. Should be able to get the repairs blended. Maybe put out a wanted ad for original paint fenders that would match.
Here is a product for preserving.
https://sweetpatina.bigcartel.com/product/patina-sauce |
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Jacob-A-Smith Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Thanks, the product says I should clean the body before I put it on but it’s pretty delicate right now. I don’t want to clean it with something too abrasive because the original paint might come off but i want to make sure the product will stick. Do you have any advice or experiences with it? |
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Dibaltic Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 564 Location: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:25 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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My understanding is hand washing is all that you need to prep for it |
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sportin-wood Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 2101 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:06 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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That's pretty funny, but at the same time sad.
Looks like a nice project! _________________ .
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Dibaltic Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 564 Location: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 7210 Location: Durango, CO
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 25921 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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I'd find another pair of rear fenders, measure and cut the lower part to match, and weld them to the original fenders. I'd even leave the welds visible. That way you'll have repaired rather than replaced. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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FritzCP Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 472 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:44 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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That will buff out beautifully. Griots Garage compound is a personal favorite of mine on OG paint cars. it works well by hand or by buffer - i like the 3" foam pads you can use with a cordless drill personally. for the deep dark brown rust, use some super fine 0000 steel wool with the compound to smooth out the paint/ primer. you can use 2000 grit wet sanding first to help get rid of the chalkiness first. better used on the lower 12" of the car (paints thicker)
I also replaced the heater channels and lower rear quarters on my 60, as well as the bottom 6" of the right front fender. Blue Baron is spot on, when he says to weld on section, leaves the welds, and just paint the patch to match. I had 2k urethane SS paint matched by the local paint jobber to the glove box, and it came out awesome. i did not "patina' any of that paint.
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5316 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:42 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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I’m in the “paint it” camp. Trying to match 60 year old weathered paint will be difficult. I would replace the fenders and respray it personally. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Agree - beautiful patina - i'd paint those 2 fenders with old-school enamel and not buff it out - will dull-some, by it's self - but id want those 2 fenders to have an updated look - to have an honest-look - or else, if they matched - you'd be like every other poor samba-guy where everything has to match- just my 2 cents - z
kinda' like this...
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Jacob-A-Smith Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Well if anyone was curious, this is how it’s ended up looking so far, it’s very close to being done and it’s turned out well. Thanks for everyone’s help on the patina but she was too far gone underneath it would’ve been too difficult.
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LALA4Fire Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2022 Posts: 13 Location: IDAHO
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:54 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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very nice. that a way to bring it back to life! |
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Kennys72bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2012 Posts: 60 Location: Chico CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:43 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Must say that is a really nice bug !!!! Can I send you mine and have you do the same thing ... |
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SLO-N-LO-69 Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:01 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Aww you took the mudflap off.
Looks great anyways. |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2810 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Love the color. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9896 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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I am a fan of keeping things "original", but in this case Justice was served. |
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vwuberalles Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 1410 Location: Richmond, VA
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10308 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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ANYBODY can paint a car. Fewer can preserve one.
I would conduct test areas on the worst parts of the missing paint (roof). Polishing and preserving with wax is preferred by many (myself included) rather than clear coating. But it is more laborious and takes maintenance. Clear coat if it will live outside- polish and wax if it lives indoors.
The red down low (bottom of doors, etc) will not be a problem to blend- it's below the widest part of the car and only you and the most astute would notice. _________________
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Emeraldlion Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 745 Location: Texarkana, TX
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Beetle Patina Opinions |
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Is that jade green? Always been a favorite color of mine. _________________ 1967 Sunroof Beetle: tourist pass car
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