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59 dormi Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:16 am Post subject: semaphore and flashing indicators? |
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Is it possible to run flashing indicators and semaphores at the same time?
running semaphores in today's traffic seems kinda scary.
Seen a lady at a BC VW show last august trying to merge into traffic with her 54, the modern drivers didn't have a clue it was a no go until I let her in front of my bus. _________________ 1959 Dormobile
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Russ Samba Member

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tazm Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2001 Posts: 530 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Yes that is possible!
I have small HD indicators in the front , and in the back my tailights are working as indicators aswell !
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 1295 Location: GILROY, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: Re: semaphore and flashing indicators? |
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78 westy wrote: |
Is it possible to run flashing indicators and semaphores at the same time?
running semaphores in today's traffic seems kinda scary.
Seen a lady at a BC VW show last august trying to merge into traffic with her 54, the modern drivers didn't have a clue it was a no go until I let her in front of my bus. |
The SEMAPHORE CONTROLLER is designed to automatically control semaphores with flashing turn signals. The Semaphore Controller detects the flashing turn signal and activates the semaphore. The semaphore is automatically lowered a few seconds after the turn signal stops.
The Semaphore Controller will operate with a 12 Volt electrical system and 12 Volt Semaphores. With the 12 Volt to 6 Volt option, 6 Volt semaphores can be used in a 12 Volt system.
The Semaphore lights can be rewired to flash with the signal lights.
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wormhole Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2008 Posts: 1 Location: beamish
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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is there not somekind of flashing bulb, like on a christmas tree that is availlable to replace the standard bulb 6volt or 12 volt, so the arms go up and the bulb flashes on and off. |
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tazm Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2001 Posts: 530 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: semaphore and flashing indicators? |
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Wayne S. Johnson wrote: |
78 westy wrote: |
Is it possible to run flashing indicators and semaphores at the same time?
running semaphores in today's traffic seems kinda scary.
Seen a lady at a BC VW show last august trying to merge into traffic with her 54, the modern drivers didn't have a clue it was a no go until I let her in front of my bus. |
The SEMAPHORE CONTROLLER is designed to automatically control semaphores with flashing turn signals. The Semaphore Controller detects the flashing turn signal and activates the semaphore. The semaphore is automatically lowered a few seconds after the turn signal stops.
The Semaphore Controller will operate with a 12 Volt electrical system and 12 Volt Semaphores. With the 12 Volt to 6 Volt option, 6 Volt semaphores can be used in a 12 Volt system.
The Semaphore lights can be rewired to flash with the signal lights.
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Those semaphore controllers are also available in 6 Volt !
And they work perfect ! My car is still 6 Volt !
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality

Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4135 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I rigged my split to have brake lights, blinkers and flashing semaphores. I'll post how if anyone is interested. About $75. It's finished now and works great. _________________ CH³NO²
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Deckie27 Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2007 Posts: 70 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: semaphore and flashing indicators? |
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tazm wrote: |
Those semaphore controllers are also available in 6 Volt !
And they work perfect ! My car is still 6 Volt !
Regards,
Guido |
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 1295 Location: GILROY, CA
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Deckie27 Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2007 Posts: 70 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: semaphore and flashing indicators? |
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?But thats for a 12v system. I need one for a 6v system |
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member

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Deckie27 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: semaphore and flashing indicators? |
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Wayne S. Johnson wrote: |
I also make a 6 Volt Semaphore controller. |
Ok sorry  |
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member

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59 dormi Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 621 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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what colour was the beetle:) Russ iceland? green great Canadian show
Wayne S. Johnson we will be in touch this semaphore controller is just the ticket!!  _________________ 1959 Dormobile
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joshbuchan Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2007 Posts: 712 Location: victoria bc canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:28 am Post subject: |
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who paints a car green? not flashy enough.......eh Russ  |
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maesdieter Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Belgium / Europ
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Can this module be used also for the stoplights at the back to make them flash to ?.
I want a system that activates the semafhores, with normal lights together with a stoplight at the back flashing also and a orange bulb placed in the headlights, using the original turnsignal ( 3wire ) switch.
I thought two relays ( make and brake contacts) and a flasher unit can do the job.
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FRK Samba Member

Joined: December 09, 2002 Posts: 2661 Location: Orange county, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Splitdog wrote: |
I rigged my split to have brake lights, blinkers and flashing semaphores. I'll post how if anyone is interested. About $75. It's finished now and works great. |
Yes, I would like to know how. Can you post how its done? Thanks! _________________ 64 Ghia
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality

Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4135 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Here ya go:
This will get the semaphores flashing, provide blinkers, flashing dash indicator, and brake lights on early cars. This works great for splits. If you have an oval window, I would disable VW’s flasher system and run this setup. This assumes you are going 12 volt.
You will need to purchase a 2-terminal flasher ($5).You will need dual-filament rear bulb holders as well as an extra wire ran in the wiring harness to go to the taillights out back. (for splits). Go to www.watsons-streetworks.com and go halfway down their VW page. You want #L 10-TSRP. ($50). Follow the wiring diagram that comes with it. You mount this 4 relay-pack under the front trunk liner behind the dash. Then get two 1-ohm 50 watt ceramic resistors (they're big—I ran mine under the cowl) to go from the semaphore switch outs to the semaphore. ($10 each). One on each side, 'cause you'll need the full 12 volts going to the switch for the flasher. You'll get exactly 6 volts going to your sema.
Here’s how it works:
The top post of the sema is for the wire that goes to the dash indicator light. (this is always ‘hot’, and grounds out at the sema when the arm is up to provide dash light).
The bottom post is for the wire from the switch that energizes the semaphore. (coil and bulb). You should have two wires going from the bottom post to the coil and bulb. You want to cut the white wire that goes up to the bulb at the bottom post, and attach it to the top post. Also, now you want to be sure to disable the little strap that grounds out the coil pin on the bottom of the sema coil as you do not want this now. With it disabled, you attach the bulb (white) wire to the top post, along with the dash bulb indicator wire in the harness.
Now, wire it so that when you turn the switch, (right or left), power (12v) comes out of the switch and goes thru the resistor (right or left), and to the bottom post of the respective semaphore using the existing semaphore wire in the harness. You get 6v, and the sema pops up.
Also, you branch off of the switch out (before the resistors), and go to the relay pack (it has two inputs for this-right and left). It will have two sets of ‘outs’, (right and left rear, and right and left front--I used the 'front'--the rears will be for rear blinkers.) Run the front outs(--left and right--) to the top posts of the semaphores, using the existing dash indicator wire in the harness, one to each sema, and now they flash.
You also want to branch off of each of these outs on the relay pack to two diodes( #4001—common diodes—50 cents). At the other end of the diodes tie them both together to a single wire leading to the indicator bulb in the dash, then ground it out behind the dash. (that way, no matter which side is activated, the single dash indicator bulb gets power, and current cannot go backwards through the other wire to the relays). Now the indicator bulb will flash.
As mentioned above, the relay pack has left and right front outputs, and left and right rear outputs. (At this point, you could branch off of the fronts and go to front blinkers as well). The ‘rear’ outs go to the rear bulb holders. This is for your rear blinkers. The relay pack has provisions for the flasher input, and the brake light switch input.
Now the semaphores go up, (6 volt), the semaphore bulb flashes (12v), along with the rear (and front) blinkers, and the indicator in your dash. All together. And brake lights. Cool, huh? The relay pack will distinguish between brake lights and flasher, allowing the flasher to override the brake lights when both are applied. (one on solid, the turn side blinking....). If you have any questions, PM me. It works great. Jim _________________ CH³NO²
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member

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Russ Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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78 westy wrote: |
what colour was the beetle:) Russ iceland? green great Canadian show
Wayne S. Johnson we will be in touch this semaphore controller is just the ticket!!  |
that was my wife
ya no kiddin Josh
wow great info Jim _________________ Cruiser pedals for sale (see my ad's)
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