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mikewire 
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| From what I understand those are no good. Fail closed and unreliable. |
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busdaddy
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Save your money.
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SGKent
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Haven't owned one and never will. NOS T1 and T4 thermostats are still out there. They fail but when they do it is in the open position. The new style fail in the closed position.
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mikewire
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1977_L63H_P27
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| Haven't owned one and never will. NOS T1 and T4 thermostats are still out there. They fail but when they do it is in the open position. The new style fail in the closed position. |
Plus there are people converting the Corvair thermostat's for use on VW's. Afriend of mine has been running one for a few months now and reports it's working fine. Peace!
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Wildthings
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| SGKent wrote: |
| Haven't owned one and never will. NOS T1 and T4 thermostats are still out there. They fail but when they do it is in the open position. The new style fail in the closed position. |
Plus there are people converting the Corvair thermostat's for use on VW's. Afriend of mine has been running one for a few months now and reports it's working fine. Peace! |
I bought a couple of Corvair thermostats a few years ago to try and the price was reasonable. There are a couple of different designs, some larger in diameter than others. Try Clarks Corvair or something like that. |
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mikewire
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VWDruid
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rebuild it
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1036746
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Wildthings
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| Where would one source a Corvair thermo? I assume it would be somewhere online, possibly an enthusiasts parts supplier or something. |
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| I bought a couple of Corvair thermostats a few years ago to try and the price was reasonable. There are a couple of different designs, some larger in diameter than others. Try Clarks Corvair or something like that. |
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chimneyfish
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Ratwell details the thermostats, and also rebuilding one yourself. Some of his image links are still dead as he is slowly having to rehost the image library, but all the information is there:
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Thermostats.html
German Supply give a tutorial here on adapting a Wahler Type 1 thermostat to a Type 4:
http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/home.ph..._in_t4.tpl
Those new South American thermostats at CIP1, as you have figured, are disasters waiting to happen, to many reports of them failing closed. Keep checkig the classifieds for second hand and NOS Wahler units, Type 4 if your lucky, or just do the simple adaption of the Type 1 as described in the links above, that's what I did.
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| 1977_L63H_P27 wrote: |
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| Haven't owned one and never will. NOS T1 and T4 thermostats are still out there. They fail but when they do it is in the open position. The new style fail in the closed position. |
Plus there are people converting the Corvair thermostat's for use on VW's. Afriend of mine has been running one for a few months now and reports it's working fine. Peace! |
I bought a couple of Corvair thermostats a few years ago to try and the price was reasonable. There are a couple of different designs, some larger in diameter than others. Try Clarks Corvair or something like that. |
http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi?functi...page=NOS-3
in Massachusetts on rt 2.. they open around 95 ° c
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Wildthings
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in Massachusetts on rt 2.. they open around 95 ° c |
Looks like 1961 and later thermostats are out of stock.  |
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Wildthings
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Those last two T-4 thermostats in the VW parts network that I bought 5-6 years ago are looking like a good investment at this point. Don't remember what I paid, but I thought at the time it was surprisingly little. |
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mikewire
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josh
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Great ideas and links. Mine is far from where I can rebuild it unfortunately, so I will need to find an NOS or used one, good info.
The Corvair thermo is something I will check into, and report back. |
Did you somehow miss this?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1036746
This guy's willing to stand behind these with a 2 year warranty. I've had new german thermostats fail faster than that.
If people don't buy them, they probably won't get made anymore. That'd be a damn shame in my opinion.
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mikewire
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Wildthings
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If people don't buy them, they probably won't get made anymore. That'd be a damn shame in my opinion. |
Production is done with for these thermostats, supposedly the factory burned and the dies were destroyed. The ones that are out there hidden in warehouses, garages, and back rooms are all there are. |
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