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Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:26 pm

Just had a call from Randee. He's mailing me a money order for $380. I asked about being slugged the Paypal fee without being advised about it and he insists he did me a favour by letting me use Paypal and that Paypal doesn't appear in his ad. Can't argue with some.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=321076

Stay tuned.

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:38 pm

You know, I just talked with Randee on the phone about 15 minutes ago...
It's Tuesday here in NorCal, as well.
It seems odd, that Randee's story, while resembling the one the gent from Australia has posted, differs on a few points.
The PayPal part is true, Randee does NOT have PayPal, and he used a friend's account to receiove the money.
PayPal charges a fee, so Randee did NOT get the full amount he was supposed to.
When the "Down Under" gent said "you're a week late, I want my money back" Randee said "Fine, no problem, but I want to let you know YOUR WHEELS ARE HERE, READY TO SHIP, please send the remaining balance" (would YOU ship something that hadn't been fully paid for, to a stranger in another country? I sure as heck wouldn't...) The Aussie gent said he didn't have the money, and Randee asked him how long he thought it would take to acquire the necessary funds. The gent stated that it would take 2 weeks. AFTER WAITING THREE WEEKS, with NO communication from the potential buyer, Randee had someone else, that wanted the wheels. Being a small, one-man company, Randee can't sit on product. So, yes, he sold the guy's wheels to someone else that paid him on the spot. Mind you, this was after waiting a full week after the guy said he would have the balance due, and hadn't communicated with Randee, at all.
Randee is a one man show, and doesn't have time to sit on the computer and monitor everything that goes on on the various VW internet sites.
As well, he is not the most computer-savvy guy in the world, nor is he, by his own admission, the most eloquent. He barely has time to check his e-mails, and has trouble making sense with the printed word. Does this make him a bad person? No, I don't think so. I have seen Randee's operation in person, and believe you me, he is NOT getting rich making wheels and valve covers and etc. In fact, it appeared to me that he was barely scraping by.
To the gentleman from Singapore-
You didn't pay postage, Randee did. Again, being a small operation, on an extremely tighht budget, he simply cannot afford to send your stuff overnight, or anything like that, when he is paying the freight. He said that you should, by now, have your tail light visors in your hands. Yes, they WERE sent "slow boat", and that can take a while, especially with customs, etc.
I was NOT put up to this by Randee, on the contrary, I'll probably get a nastygram or scathing e-mail from him for sticking my nose into this. I have NOTHING to gain by doing this, and will NOT answer any questions about Randee, RDWs, Tail light Visors, Randar Wheels, or anything else, so don't waste Everett's bandwidth asking me any more about this on this forum, As well, any PMs regarding this matter will be completely, totally ignored, or deleted.
There's 2 sides to every story, and while there is more to Randee's side than this, this is somewhat the "cliff notes" version.
Everett, or Jennepher, I would answer questions and inquiries from you, if need be. I believe you have my regular e-mail, or there is always the PM function on this kick-butt website.
I stayed out of this as long as I could. I am now getting right the heck back out of it.

Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:40 pm

65busser wrote: Paypal doesn't appear in his ad.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=321076
.

Wow, you are totally correct. It doesn't say ANYWHERE on his ad, that he accepts PayPal. (Since he doesn't have a PayPal account, that isn't a real huge surprise..)

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:24 pm

Dave wrote: 65busser wrote: Paypal doesn't appear in his ad.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=321076
.

Wow, you are totally correct. It doesn't say ANYWHERE on his ad, that he accepts PayPal. (Since he doesn't have a PayPal account, that isn't a real huge surprise..)
yes it does bottom corner forms of payment
Payments accepted: SAN DIEGO, California, USA Map it
Cash
Paypal
Money order/Bank check

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:40 pm

maybe one of you guys who is so close to randee can find out what the hell is going on with my wheels since i can't get him to answer any the phone numbers i have or get a response to emails. while you're at it, ask him to read the last email i sent him yesterday.

randy

Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:18 pm

Russ wrote: Dave wrote: 65busser wrote: Paypal doesn't appear in his ad.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=321076
.

Wow, you are totally correct. It doesn't say ANYWHERE on his ad, that he accepts PayPal. (Since he doesn't have a PayPal account, that isn't a real huge surprise..)
yes it does bottom corner forms of payment
Payments accepted: SAN DIEGO, California, USA Map it
Cash
Paypal
Money order/Bank check

It sure as hell does. If he doesn't want to deal with Paypal then he should remove that immediately. I'm not sure how anyone could say with such confidence that it doesn't say ANYWHERE that he accepts Paypal :? .

Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:52 pm

^^^^^DITTO^^^^^

Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:58 pm

Dave wrote:
Randee is a one man show, and doesn't have time to sit on the computer and monitor everything that goes on on the various VW internet sites.
As well, he is not the most computer-savvy guy in the world....he barely has time to check his e-mails, and has trouble making sense with the printed word. Does this make him a bad person? No, I don't think so.

Frankly, one would have to assume that to run an internet based business that communications is a key factor… and it’s been more than just our Aussie and Singapore friends that have expressed the lack thereof. A member having to beg or “pray” on a public forum for assistance is just absurd. You couldn’t buy such publicity…good or bad.

I also don’t buy the whole “not being internet-savvy thing”…umm, you’re running a business with the internet being your prime source of advertising and media. So you’re savvy enough to place multiple ads on various VW sites, savvy enough to list Paypal as a form of payment, but not savvy enough to communicate with contracted customers through something we call E-Mail. You don’t have to browse the Samba all day in order to respond incoming messages.

While I can appreciate you vouching for the guy on a personal basis, it seems a little obvious with today’s deadline and the “check’s in the mail” resolution.

Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:34 pm

Dave, You haven't done yourself, Randee or me any favours there. I really urge you to have another look at the sequence of events again. Page 4.
I can't take your comments too seriously 'cos your understanding of the situation suggests you're of a similar mind to Randee. You just don't get it. You don't make sense. There's no black or white...just grey.
To make such a statement, then make it clear there will be no further communication, "talk to the hand", speaks volumes.
Don't worry, I certainly don't want to talk to you.

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:20 pm

I stand corrected. It DOES say he takes PayPal.
I made a mistake, I didn't see it when I perused the ad.
Agreed. He should remove that from his ad.

Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:28 pm

[quote="Dave"]To the gentleman from Singapore-
You didn't pay postage, Randee did. Again, being a small operation, on an extremely tighht budget, he simply cannot afford to send your stuff overnight, or anything like that, :roll:
It seems to me that RDW is $380.00 ahead till 65 Busser gets his money

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:48 pm

Dave wrote: Randee is a one man show, and doesn't have time to sit on the computer and monitor everything that goes on on the various VW internet sites.
As well, he is not the most computer-savvy guy in the world, nor is he, by his own admission, the most eloquent. He barely has time to check his e-mails, and has trouble making sense with the printed word.

Sounds to me like he shouldn't be selling things on the internet if he doesn't have time to monitor the items he is selling. If he has enough time to come on here and update his ads he should have enough time to read his emails about his ads.

Who wants to bet on how long it takes for the UNDER REFUNDED money order to get to 65busser?

Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:52 pm

Again, as a outsider to all this, Randee has done nothing except make promises. He is mailing out a money order? Based on his recent record this statement is meaningless. As I have to frequently remind my eldest son: "actions not words!"

EB - your site your rules. Tuesday was the deadline you set. I am very surprised that his ads are still up.

Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:51 pm

Dave wrote: You know, I just talked with Randee on the phone about 15 minutes ago...

To the gentleman from Singapore-
You didn't pay postage, Randee did. Again, being a small operation, on an extremely tighht budget, he simply cannot afford to send your stuff overnight, or anything like that, when he is paying the freight. He said that you should, by now, have your tail light visors in your hands. Yes, they WERE sent "slow boat", and that can take a while, especially with customs, etc.

All the way I still trust Randee will solve the problem to us... All the price he quate it to me.... He doesn't have paypal.... I trust him, I'm send out the cash by registered mail to him... No less and no extra.....just like a normal honest deal.......
He promise me he will send off 2 sets visor first.....but I have tell him I will pay more extra shipping cost to third sets visor..... Here is his answer

>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: TheSamba.com Ad - RANDAR--1956- 61 bug taillight visors
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:16:20 EST
>
>there will be no extra cost to you on shipping. i will send them off . i
>heard you had said some thing about RANDAR WHEELS on the samba?

I have do my correct way.....So Dave :?: I have any wrong to me???? All the thing was very simple..... Just refund the payment to 65busser.... just send the visor to me....All will easy to solve....... Why tune a big round again and again????? For me.... 1 hour will solve the case 8)

Randee..... I will let you know again... if I received the visor from you.... thanks tham

Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:05 pm

:D Cann't believe...... After post a forum...... The postman past me the package from Randee, the life just like a drama, not joke....Randee said: 2 sets visor first... Will post third set after complete process.... :lol:
I know Randee will try his best..... Like what I said before.... He really busy and give him a "bit" time.....
Randee! I will waiting your third visor, at least now I can answer to my two best friends...... =D>

Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:01 am

Dave no one said randy was a bad guy. I said he seems cool and trust worth to me but from what I read he really needs to take care of this guy because it makes him look bad. Read back all the post theres no bad talking him just his lack of action in this problem. I hope it all works out they both seem like nice guys.

Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:31 pm

Is this resolved :?:

Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:48 am

newbugguy wrote: Dave wrote:
Randee is a one man show, and doesn't have time to sit on the computer and monitor everything that goes on on the various VW internet sites.
As well, he is not the most computer-savvy guy in the world....he barely has time to check his e-mails, and has trouble making sense with the printed word. Does this make him a bad person? No, I don't think so.

Frankly, one would have to assume that to run an internet based business that communications is a key factor…

I also don’t buy the whole “not being internet-savvy thing”…umm, you’re running a business with the internet being your prime source of advertising and media.

I'm not making excuses, and I hardly know randy well, but I believe your assumptions to be incorrect. I would not consider randar to be an internet based buisness. I would consider him to be a show vendor, he is at every major show in so-cal, selling wheels, delivering wheels already purchased, advertising his products etc. The times I have met him he was very friendly, open about new projects, and far from dishonest. He really does seem to be a vw enthusiest who just wanted to get a better selection of wheels out to the vw crowd. I highly doubt anything shady was going on, although I do agree communication should have been better.

Dave, thanks for pointing out the otherside of the story

Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:41 pm

I agree Erik, I think that although Randee derives some of his business from the internet, I think he knows very little about it. I also believe that he is the nice guy everyone says he is. I have no reason to doubt that.
I think he's just a bit too casual perhaps, to be offering an international service.
I think he probably makes nice wheels, but as far as business talent goes, that's where it stops. And that's ok. Maybe he needs an assistant.
So perhaps the lesson is to deal face to face.
Tha facts are in this thread and I'm still waiting for the mail to arrive, but it's coming to Australia so I'm giving it time.
Just for the record Erik, Daves "other side" is pure fantasy as far as the facts go.

Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:44 pm

Isn't this grand? I saw these wheels were out last last summer, and thought since my plans for today had been shot down I would see what was available out there. First long thread I went through made me lean towards the Randees because he "went about making them the right way," and now this post makes me lean towards running away completely. First Things Unlimited, now this. What a pisser. I suppose I could have someone "represent" me at a show or something, we'll see.