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Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:40 pm

normaly you can use all 356 coolers, but some need some modifications, one type has 8mm studs, you ned to drill abigger whole in the enginecase to fix the oilcooler (6mmstud), the later 356c or 912 cooler have on top a nut to screw them on the fanhousing (vibration), you can cut this without any problem...

and also, there are different typs of fanhousings, one 36hp housings have on top in the front a dent, that ones whick have to be modified to fit on a 356 cooler... (have not enenough hight to some vanes)

Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:23 am

Attached are copies of the time slips from the Drag day last Sunday, September 16th for the Brukrasa 36HP VW beetle.

After rainouts a month ago, we finally got our drag strip day completed for test & tune. I got 8 passes in and tried different combinations of tire diameter & exhaust mods. The Brukrasa 36HP Vintage sedan ran 73.13 MPH @ 17.8 sec in the quarter mile. We had some wheel hop problems at first but had a really good time. The motor is still alive and ready to go to Maxton in October for the ECTA standing mile runs.

I don't know how these times compare to other vintage speed VW's but ThomasKaefer should know.

Bville Tom

Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:15 am

Hello Tom!

Sounds great to me, really!

This weekend in germany there is race-weekend at Bitburg Airfield. I think, regarding on the last two years, a lot of oldspeed cars will be there!

I expect some comparing time to yours... so stay updated at oldspeed-register!

Regards

Thomas

P.S.: Would it be possible for you to send me a filled out version of this?

http://wiki.bildung-schadet-nicht.de/images/2/29/Oldspeed.pdf

http://oldspeed-register.blogspot.com/

Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:54 pm

And here the latest news in vintage speed stuff:

the (W)okrasa

to kick off these high priced okrasa heads i`m creating my own out of stock heads.

I want to run double carbs, so i need a smooth flowing double port head :D

at the bottom an orig. okrasa head
in the middle a "test" head to check thicknesses etc.
on the top the started prototype of my Wokrasa head

http://myokrasa.oyla22.de

(W)olfgang

Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:05 am

here are also some pictures of my new project, the Bukrasa inspires me a bit , and i try to make it at a little bit differnt way.

i used some riechert essen manifolds from a later 1300/1500 engine and modified them to use it later on my 36 hp heads with 2 34pci carbs on top

and now after som hours of grinding an porting:

to the rest of the angine:

modified cam, 74mm 356 crank, 77,5 vw pistons..... 36mm inletvalve, 34 pci carbs

Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:48 pm

OMT wrote:

:lol: Bettie's neu Heart......1.7 liter!
MFG,
Al

After seeing Al's car and motor at the treffin, I have much respect for him, his motor and his car. I know it is late but better late then never.

Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:37 am

Rolling the Okrasa in my ghia....

:)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:06 pm

My friend Tom just ran a 36hp NA engine at Maxton NC. In the standing mile they ran 91mph. The cam is too mild. They used a cam for a turbo setup. I have a few 36hp engines I'm restoring for running displays and my Oval. It's been really fun watching all the work that goes into a race 36hp. Who would have thought it? They're running at Bonneville next - after the cam gets swapped... Search the old Bonneville records for Tom Bruch and Bruch Motorwerks. -ralph

For Tom's current NA 36hp record:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=262456

Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:52 pm

I want to know more about this :twisted:

http://homepage3.nifty.com/yokohamabusstop/bug-in32.htm

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:03 pm

hello,i am leslie from belgium,i also built a 36hp,it runs on the dynotest in the car,96hp,it runs 15.14 on the 1/4mile. now i am building a bigger engine and make from 1500c up to 1740cc,i have some shorrock to put on it and i have to make the manifold to put 48ida on it. i also have bigger heads,it was from 356a with 38x31 and have now 38x34. i will post some pictures for who have intrest. this picture is from my 1500c (std crank) from 2006.

Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:53 am

Anyone running the old Express kit?

Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:35 am

kever57 wrote: hello,i am leslie from belgium,i also built a 36hp,it runs on the dynotest in the car,96hp,it runs 15.14 on the 1/4mile. now i am building a bigger engine and make from 1500c up to 1740cc,i have some shorrock to put on it and i have to make the manifold to put 48ida on it. i also have bigger heads,it was from 356a with 38x31 and have now 38x34. i will post some pictures for who have intrest. this picture is from my 1500c (std crank) from 2006.

:D :) WERE CAN WE SE SOME MORE DETAIS IN PICTURES :-)))))

sounds REALLY interesting!!!!

Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:00 pm

kever57 wrote:

Congrats kever57 to this engine, a real eye catcher! :shock:

BUT you overstep now a border where the question comes up where to stop.....

This engine is now 100% Porsche except the case (and this was also used one early Porsches). Are the cylinders and pistons vw?

You`ve tuned a porsche engine and not a 36hp, just my 2cents.

Oval56 and i want to use the 74mm crank and rods of Porsche, the same problem.
Where to stop with Porsche parts? No problem to get horsepower with this parts.

Wasn`t the aim of the game to power up with 36hp parts?

I don`t know....

Wolfgang

Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:11 am

the engine on the piture have only the 356heads and 356 big bore cilinders,the pistons are vw typ1 87mm from 1641cc,the pushrods,flywheel, crank and rods are std from 36HP only the rods are small end up from 20mm to 22m. the cam is from 36hp and and have the degrees from 356s90.
this have also straight cut gears on the cam and crank.

i think that this engine have a lot of vw parts. denzel or okrassa heads are too expensive for me. if i found 1set for a good price then i put them on the next engine.

here in europe i think there is nobody that makes fast 36hp engines,i run whit my car between the others whit typ1 or typ4. only on dasdragday is there oldspeedchallange and then drive max5 cars with judson or okrassa kit. there is only 1 rule,it have to be an original crankcase.
next year whit my shorrock on it i hope to be much faster and then i hope to drive agains typ1 :roll:

Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:00 pm

kever57 wrote:

here in europe i think there is nobody that makes fast 36hp engines,i run whit my car between the others whit typ1 or typ4. only on dasdragday is there oldspeedchallange and then drive max5 cars with judson or okrassa kit. there is only 1 rule,it have to be an original crankcase.
next year whit my shorrock on it i hope to be much faster and then i hope to drive agains typ1 :roll:

There are some fast 36hp engines in europe to, mine 1620 has 81 hp and there are some others seen here in this thread with lots of power and more are coming.

btw I am from sweden :D

Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:00 pm

Bengt H wrote: kever57 wrote:

here in europe i think there is nobody that makes fast 36hp engines,i run whit my car between the others whit typ1 or typ4. only on dasdragday is there oldspeedchallange and then drive max5 cars with judson or okrassa kit. there is only 1 rule,it have to be an original crankcase.
next year whit my shorrock on it i hope to be much faster and then i hope to drive agains typ1 :roll:

There are some fast 36hp engines in europe to, mine 1620 has 81 hp and there are some others seen here in this thread with lots of power and more are coming.

btw I am from sweden :D

1620 what engine combo is that??

Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:40 am

83 x 74 mm, some engine fakts can bee seen on page 8 in this thread.

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:31 am

kever57 wrote:
here in europe i think there is nobody that makes fast 36hp engines,i run whit my car between the others whit typ1 or typ4. only on dasdragday is there oldspeedchallange and then drive max5 cars with judson or okrassa kit. there is only 1 rule,it have to be an original crankcase.
next year whit my shorrock on it i hope to be much faster and then i hope to drive agains typ1 :roll:

you're wrong dude... but not completely... actually, the BZH french crew isn't preparing vintage speed 36HP, but 25PS... The first one develops around 80PS, in a fully vintage 51 beetle. '50 block, Okrasa 25PS heads, 356 pre-A crankshaft, pre-A cylinders, and two 40 PII... First difficulty: find the right parts. Second difficulty: try to put them together so that everything works...

some infos here:

http://forums.pre67vw.co.uk/default.htm in the section forums/vintage speed/french okrasa

and here:

http://vwisgood4you.skynetblogs.be/

next projects: a prep for the '51 Barndoor and for my '53 Standard. The question is: which preps?... :D

Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:33 pm

kever57 wrote: next year whit my shorrock on it i hope to be much faster and then i hope to drive agains typ1 :roll:

Which Shorrock are you going to use? C75 or C142?

Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:51 pm

some update on my projekt, i do have now all parts back from my machineshop ( heads / new valve guides, valveseats.....)

now i do have 36mm inletvalves, and bore 78,5mm, the crank is a 356 porsche ( 74mm ) also the rods are 356 ( balanced and ligthened )

also i have to use some spacers (11mm) for the cylinders, the compresion now is 8,7:1

the porting of the heads was a long and hard to do job for me, to get all in the same shape... now i will put all parts together step by step :-)

more on my homepage ->

http://www.oval56.de/inhalt_ov57_21.html

http://www.oval56.de/inhalt_ov57_22.html