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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:42 pm Post subject: Electric vehicles are bad |
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As if we didn’t have enough to worry about this kind of nutty business pops up. What’s wrong with these people ? This won’t work😧 https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43838/spaces...ome-images
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Letterman7 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 3211 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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As a test bed, it's pretty slick. Add in solar panels on the wings for in-flight recharging and it might be a viable option. |
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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It's amazing to me that electric vehicles have been around since the early 1900s and we're only recently considering them a viable option. As a nation, we went from not even having put a man in space to putting men on the moon in just over 8 years. Why did we drag our feet on this? |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7111 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Hope the poor bastards don't try flying out of a major hub during any high volume times. Can you imagine the frustration of having to head back to the gate for another recharge because it took too much battery power during the taxi out and subsequent wait in line to take off (you're currently number 38 in line, says the tower).
I'm curious what they're using for flight control actuators, as well as what kind of setup it has for pressurization and heating/cooling. What kind of redundancy is there in the event of electrical bus or battery failure? Does everything run off the battery packs or do the motors have IDGs attached, possibly even ram air turbines for power generation inflight? _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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mukluk wrote: |
possibly even ram air turbines for power generation inflight? |
I can see no upside to that apart from possibly gaining a bit of charge on decent for an emergency go-around. The rest of the time the weight and drag would eat more battery power than would be gained. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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NUTSFORBUSES Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Solar panels on the body (wings) would be far too cold at 30K . Maybe some day when they invent clear aluminum. _________________ kaiser kills kids.com |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7111 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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NUTSFORBUSES wrote: |
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Maybe some day when they invent clear aluminum |
Only if they intend to transport a pair of humpback whales through time. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:17 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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mukluk wrote: |
NUTSFORBUSES wrote: |
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Maybe some day when they invent clear aluminum |
Only if they intend to transport a pair of humpback whales through time. |
Nice! _________________ .ssS! |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 8871 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:31 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Rich Latsch wrote: |
It's amazing to me that electric vehicles have been around since the early 1900s and we're only recently considering them a viable option. Why did we drag our feet on this? |
answer = cheap oil, readily available
It is only the development and demand for easily portable devices that has spurred the progress on battery performance.
mukluk wrote:
possibly even ram air turbines for power generation inflight?
I think it was Newton who said 'you don't get something for nothing' _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Can you imagine the frustration of having to head back to the gate for another recharge because it took too much battery power during the taxi out and subsequent wait in line to take off (you're currently number 38 in line, says the tower). |
This was routine until ATC learned to manage traffic from gate to gate. Now you don’t leave the gate until you have a landing slot at destination. You might stop in the penalty box worst case. _________________ .ssS! |
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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As far as battery technology, I rest my case. |
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daven Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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"It's amazing to me that electric vehicles have been around since the early 1900s and we're only recently considering them a viable option. As a nation, we went from not even having put a man in space to putting men on the moon in just over 8 years. Why did we drag our feet on this?
The term "petro-dollars" comes to mind. |
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EverettB Administrator
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32925 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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finster wrote: |
Rich Latsch wrote: |
It's amazing to me that electric vehicles have been around since the early 1900s and we're only recently considering them a viable option. Why did we drag our feet on this? |
answer = cheap oil, readily available
It is only the development and demand for easily portable devices that has spurred the progress on battery performance.
mukluk wrote:
possibly even ram air turbines for power generation inflight?
I think it was Newton who said 'you don't get something for nothing' |
People are in Love with conspiracy theories!
Everything is some big evil plan.
What was the electric vehicles problem in the 1910's?
Short travel Range
Long recharge times.
Gasoline however gave you unlimited travel distance and a refuel time of mere minutes.
The same issues are in play today.
Range and charging time.
Not to mention in 1910 MOST of the Nation didn't have electricity!
An electric car isn't much use when you have nothing to charge it with.
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gt1953 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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How much petrol does it take to make a electric car battery. Well you have to mine the ore, transport it, process it, etc. The what do you do with it when the battery is expired. How much cost is it to install a charging station, well you generally have to dig the ground (petrol machine) pour concrete (petrol machine) and so forth and so on.
Personally we like to cover about 600 imiles a day...cannot do that with a battery sorry the charging times would make the arrival late in the evening. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70532 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Personally we like to cover about 600 imiles a day...cannot do that with a battery sorry the charging times would make the arrival late in the evening. |
Charging times for a Tesla at the stations is only 15-25 minutes depending on how much you charge you want so you could do that when you stop for food/bathroom breaks _________________ How to Post Photos
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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EverettB wrote: |
gt1953 wrote: |
Personally we like to cover about 600 imiles a day...cannot do that with a battery sorry the charging times would make the arrival late in the evening. |
Charging times for a Tesla at the stations is only 15-25 minutes depending on how much you charge you want so you could do that when you stop for food/bathroom breaks |
With the Supercharger (tm) 200 miles in 15 minutes.
That’s impressive. A 15 minute break every 3 hours is totally reasonable even to this anti-electric wanker. _________________ .ssS! |
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pop.pop1955 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:21 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Imagine stuck in that snowstorm in Virginia in an electric vehicle, charge runs out they can't bring a charging station. You're being towed, to say nothing of blocking the road until s tow truck comes _________________ let your conscious be your guide |
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