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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Popular German '50's/'60's singer & actress Heidi Bruehl:
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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splitjunkie Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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KTPhil wrote: |
Damage shows why VW implemented safety changes (nudged by US regs):
- collapsible steering column (bent steering wheel)
- stronger seats (seat back broke and probably left the driver in the back seat) |
The collapsible column was designed to prevent the column from coming into the passenger compartment if the front collapsed in a crash. It was retained and collapses by the reinforced firewall. Your body isn't going to collapse the column. The dished steering wheel was designed to bend and collapse much more easily if you hit it and/or the column started to protrude into the passenger compartment and the column was shorter so less column to protrude straight at your head and chest.
All told, the front beam could be crushed a little less than a foot before it would start to protrude into the cabin. The steering wheel would collapse another 10 inches or so. So your safety margin improved by a little less than two feet of structural collapse of the front beam as opposed to the flat wheel with non collapsible column. After that, you are going to have a bad day. Plenty of vintage crash photos of the later cars with the dished wheel bent all to hell and several inches or more of exposed column in the cabin. A great improvement over the old wheel and solid column.
All of this assumes you had three point seat belts on. Without belts, you are going to hit the wheel, so how much give of the wheel, and the reduction of the force of the column coming toward you from the impact made the collapsible column a pretty big improvement over the dished wheel by itself.
None of these pictures show a car with the collapsible column which would have prevented most of the exposed column visible in these pictures.
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I don't know if you've seen these before but I swiped them from some website years ago. Supposed to be a VoA study from the '60's
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Now I'm too scared to get into my Beetle!! |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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^^^There's another thread for this type of photo in Readers Rides.
Also, none of the cars are oval windows, which makes the post OT. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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This might be a converted split. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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_________________ Type 1
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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_________________ Type 1
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Cool vintage photos - Oval-Window Beetles |
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