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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Canadian standard Reply with quote

I know that in 75 they have sold in Canada beetle with the moulding and bumper in black. These cars also have small headliner in the center. One I know was equiped with fuel injection. Can someone post some pics of those cars. An old salerman I know call them mexican beetle ... but these cars were equiped with fuel injection! Can somebody tell me more about them.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sold a "Basic" model 110 in the US in 1975 as well, just a bare-bones version of the bug, but not quite as austere as previous "Custom" models were. I thought I'd seen some kind of brochure for it somewhere on theSamba or maybe somewhere else online before but I can't find it offhand.

I found some pictures in the Gallery, here's a link (searched for "Model 110")

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_keywords=Model+110

The Car of the Century book talks about it, the following I got out of it:

The Model 110 Basic had no fresh air ventilation (and thus, no slots on the hood or dash knobs for it), no air vents behind the rear side windows, only a center and side outlets for defrost air on the dahsboard. All outside items that were normally chrome were black - except the fuel injection badge and the hubcaps, it had the older ET40 4Jx15 wheels with 5.60x15 bias ply tires. Inside, the seats were covered in a black/white dogtooth pattern cloth and the area behind the back seat was lined fiberboard, not carpet - and it had a headliner just in the middle like on old Custom/Standards. There were only three paint options for the 110 model - L10A Rallye Yellow, L31A African Red and L51C Miami Blue.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Canadian standard Reply with quote

vwclap wrote:
. An old salerman I know call them mexican beetle ...

Even though the car was made in Germany, I think I know why. On my 75, up by the hinge of the rear decklid, it is stamped "Mexico". Obviously the lid was stamped in Mexico, then shipped to Germany for assembly on the cars that finally came here.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glutamodo wrote:
They sold a "Basic" model 110 in the US in 1975 as well, just a bare-bones version of the bug, but not quite as austere as previous "Custom" models were. I thought I'd seen some kind of brochure for it somewhere on theSamba or maybe somewhere else online before but I can't find it offhand.

IThe Model 110 Basic had no fresh air ventilation (and thus, no slots on the hood or dash knobs for it), no air vents behind the rear side windows, only a center and side outlets for defrost air on the dahsboard. All outside items that were normally chrome were black - except the fuel injection badge and the hubcaps, it had the older ET40 4Jx15 wheels with 5.60x15 bias ply tires. Inside, the seats were covered in a black/white dogtooth pattern cloth and the area behind the back seat was lined fiberboard, not carpet - and it had a headliner just in the middle like on old Custom/Standards. There were only three paint options for the 110 model - L10A Rallye Yellow, L31A African Red and L51C Miami Blue.

-Andy


Did Vw sold that model only in 75?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwclap wrote:
glutamodo wrote:
They sold a "Basic" model 110 in the US in 1975 as well, just a bare-bones version of the bug, but not quite as austere as previous "Custom" models were. I thought I'd seen some kind of brochure for it somewhere on theSamba or maybe somewhere else online before but I can't find it offhand.

IThe Model 110 Basic had no fresh air ventilation (and thus, no slots on the hood or dash knobs for it), no air vents behind the rear side windows, only a center and side outlets for defrost air on the dahsboard. All outside items that were normally chrome were black - except the fuel injection badge and the hubcaps, it had the older ET40 4Jx15 wheels with 5.60x15 bias ply tires. Inside, the seats were covered in a black/white dogtooth pattern cloth and the area behind the back seat was lined fiberboard, not carpet - and it had a headliner just in the middle like on old Custom/Standards. There were only three paint options for the 110 model - L10A Rallye Yellow, L31A African Red and L51C Miami Blue.

-Andy


Did Vw sold that model only in 75?


I think that they also sold some in 1976 as well, but don't hold me to that.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See some pictures of my wife's African Red '75 Canadian Custom in my gallery. It has the small headliner, no outside air vents no rear window defog, basically everything that Andy posted. It is very stripped down but doesnt have the black moulding that you mentioned, that sounds like a '74 Love Bug. The only upgrades on my wife's '75 is a basic VW radio and the gas heater. The Po's PO redid the rear seat and door inserts in fabric and changed out the front seats to incorrect ones. As I learn more about the car I am deciding to restore it back to original. Do they even sell fibreboard door inserts?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember looking at a new one in the showroom and remarking how stark the interior was. The door panels were even fiberboard although some folks changed those out at the dealer. VW was desperate to keep the costs down in the face of the Japanese competition.

Can't remember for sure but in Canada did the Basic model come with the swing axle trans, while the Standard and La Grande came with the IRS?

A very rare vehicle.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the oval forum we were talking about the Canadian Custom ....back in the 90's a buddy of mine parted a few of the 70's customs they all had swingaxle transmission
I've seen about five or six of these cars most owners do it up like a deluxe when the car get's restored not knowing what they got.
The newest custom I've laid eyes on was a 78 so the owner claimed I'm thinking now after reading about your wifes car it must have been a 76 it was red with houndstooth interior and all the other custom features Toronto vw dealer sticker on the hood/decklid this car may still be around it was getting channels and floors put in.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh forgot to add that they sold bugs in Canada till 1978 unless the ones we scrapped back in the day were imports but highly unlikely Canada received all kinds of Vws not seen on the American market.
VAG/VWC figured Canadians were more like Europeans in their car selection after all we did get official VW imports and dealers first the Detroit vintage show is always fun I always get told how "wrong/incorrect" my car is then one year we went down with three 1957 customs there were some confused "experts" that day lol Very Happy
Fascinating topic hope we get some more people who have these cars to step forward I would love to learn more!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya 78,

78 westy wrote:
,,,,,, but highly unlikely Canada received all kinds of Vws not seen on the American market........


I'm thinking that's correct.

Garwood, in The Car of the Century makes several references to the North American market and vehicles being built specifically for that market. That leads me to believe that, for the most part there was no difference between vehicles shipped into Canada and those shipped into the States.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except the Custom models, those were Canadian only. But after the late 60s I'm not sure if they offered them anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

78 westy wrote:
Oh forgot to add that they sold bugs in Canada till 1978 unless the ones we scrapped back in the day were imports but highly unlikely Canada received all kinds of Vws not seen on the American market.
VAG/VWC figured Canadians were more like Europeans in their car selection after all we did get official VW imports and dealers first the Detroit vintage show is always fun I always get told how "wrong/incorrect" my car is then one year we went down with three 1957 customs there were some confused "experts" that day lol Very Happy
Fascinating topic hope we get some more people who have these cars to step forward I would love to learn more!


VW Canada sold Notchback, razor edge ghia, vanagon crew cab and single cab and lately the Golf and Jetta city, something not found in the US...1977 was the last year in Canada if I remember well for sedan ( all were ball joint frond end) after 75. I may be wrong but I never saw a 78 canadian beetle. They sold convertible until 80 in Canada.

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Except the Custom models, those were Canadian only. But after the late 60s I'm not sure if they offered them anymore.


In the 70 they sold beetle with swingaxle in Canada but not in the US. I don't know if they had a special name or M code but these were different than the US spec. bug
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

68-73 with a swing axle I thought that was then end of the customs till I seen that late model custom with F.I.
I'm going to have to make some calls this weekend to see who scrapped the "newest" custom
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Canadian Standard Beetles Reply with quote

I'll add my voice to some of the above comments.

The term "Standard Beetle" in Canada is most often used to describe a late swingaxle model...at least when I was involved in the '70's. My brother purchased a '71 Standard swingaxle new from our local dealer (not a Super Beetle, as they all had IRS). I have also seen others all the way up to 1974 that were swingaxle, 1600 cc, dual-port, dual-relief, doghouse, etc.

You could also buy a regular Beetle in 1974 with IRS (still not a Super Beetle), which I did in high school. My father also bought a '74 that was IRS regular Beetle.

As an aside, I've noticed that most late Canadian Beetles with the 1600 cc dual-port, doghouse engines were timed at 7.5 BTDC...whereas as a number of USA Beetles were set at 5 ATDC. Perhaps this was California emissions related?
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