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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Oil Valve PLUGGED between #1 and #2 pushrod bores...normal?? Reply with quote

I completed the disassembly of my '76 2.0 cases today. In my dummy book, it says to remove both oil valves...the one on the bottom of the engine and the one between the #1 and #2 pushrod bores. I removed the one on the bottom with a large flat head...when I went to remove the one on the side, it was non-existent. According to my book, all VW's after '71 should have this valve...was mine plugged from the factory, or did someone screw with my engine? Any input is greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the one with only one valve is a later case. it is made that way. all the engines with hydraulic lifters have only one relief, there are some other internal differences.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmmm
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting...my block has solid lifters. Is there any chance that they started this one valve thing in '76?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the case letters before the numbers, up on top by the square casting for the crankcase vent?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw the Muir book out the window it will only confuse you rebuilding your motor.

I suggest

HOW TO REBUILD VW AIRCOOLED ENGINES

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D9690

And the best of all is this video

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D9607
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deathman68 wrote:
Interesting...my block has solid lifters. Is there any chance that they started this one valve thing in '76?


yes, it is possible. it is also possible that your engine started life with hydraulic lifters. the only way to know for sure is from the engine code. there were engines built from the factory with a single-relief case and solid lifters, but i was under the impression theses were all european market.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my engine number is as follows: GE033279

Also, I just ordered new cases through AVP...haven't received them yet. Will I need to plug this port or will I need to install this valve in the new cases?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deathman68 wrote:
my engine number is as follows: GE033279

That's a hydraulic case from 1978.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I ordered new heads, I ordered ones for a '76 (b/c that's what I thought my engine was). Will these heads still fit and work with my new avp cases and stock exhaust exhaust?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forget the solid lifters part...i read up on hyd. lifters in the FAQ and according to the description, the pushrods for the hyd. lifters look like 3/8" uniform steel rods...sounds about right to me. it appears as if i do indeed have hydraulic lifters in there.

this perhaps also explains the engine detioration over the course of the trip. i bought the bus sight unseen (and my first ever vw) and asked to have a mechanic look over it before i flew up to purchase it. the mechanic adjusted the valves, checked timing and compression. the compression turned out to be great, but at this point, I feel like the valve adjustment may have done the engine in. since he thought he was working on a '76 engine, i would imagine that the valve clearance was set at .006" rather than the two turns out causing both of my heads to crack by the time it made it to Nashville from upstate New York.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deathman68 wrote:
When I ordered new heads, I ordered ones for a '76 (b/c that's what I thought my engine was). Will these heads still fit and work with my new avp cases and stock exhaust exhaust?

Yep.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deathman68 wrote:
forget the solid lifters part...i read up on hyd. lifters in the FAQ and according to the description, the pushrods for the hyd. lifters look like 3/8" uniform steel rods...sounds about right to me. it appears as if i do indeed have hydraulic lifters in there.

this perhaps also explains the engine detioration over the course of the trip. i bought the bus sight unseen (and my first ever vw) and asked to have a mechanic look over it before i flew up to purchase it. the mechanic adjusted the valves, checked timing and compression. the compression turned out to be great, but at this point, I feel like the valve adjustment may have done the engine in. since he thought he was working on a '76 engine, i would imagine that the valve clearance was set at .006" rather than the two turns out causing both of my heads to crack by the time it made it to Nashville from upstate New York.


The 'book' adjustment for hydraulics is 2 turns IN, not out. But I prefer 1 turn.

What do you have between each pair of rocker arms?
A spring? Or a spacer?

The heads did not crack on the drive down because of valve adjustment ..... they were cracked already.
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