Fiberglassing rail with stretch wrap??

[ORANGECRUSHer]

I need you fiberglass experts to put my curiosity to rest, please.

I have a tube framed buggy I want to make body panels for. I would start with hood, sides and a roof. Since every buggy is different I want to make my own. It seems like in the past I've seen where you can wrap something in stretch wrap, the stuff they use in shipping departments to wrap skids of product, and then lay the fiberglas over the top.

I've done very small fiberglass projects in the past and this seems like a fun challenge. Maybe you can give me the ins and outs of fiberglassing without a mold on stretch wrap.
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Brian H.

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[viiking]

I'm not a fibreglass expert but would you be using stretch wrap or shrink wrap?

These are both used in logistics for pallet wrapping and are two different animals.

Stretch wrap is as it says 'stretched' over an item. It elongates in any direction. Downside is that it can crease which can cause issues obviously with appearance on a "buck".

Shrink wrap on the other hand is laid loosely over an item and then is heated and it assumes the shape of the item. Methinks this would be the appropriate stuff to use if you are trying to cover a body part rather than stretch wrap.

I have in the past just used normal plastic sheet just to prevent the stickiness between layers of fibreglass and it is not a problem and is not affected by the resin.
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[ORANGECRUSHer]

Stretch.
I was just envisioning carefully wrapping around where I needed to work. Maybe creating more structure to hold up the glass or using padding to create some distance around objects. I figure the backside won't be pretty but who cares, the problem would be making flat looking panels and I wonder how well it would hold up. Fiberglass is expensive and time-consuming so I'm not even sure if it's a better option over aluminum. The only real benefit is easy repair and it wont dent.
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Brian H.

OrangeCrushERBerrien Warrior-2.4L Quad4-2x3 arms-1.5Fox coilovers-094-930CVs
LAZY MARY1970 Baja 2110cc-82mm CB forged crank-AA pistons/cylinders-Grant rings-1.1 vw rockers-CB serpkit-CB chromoly PRs-CB maxiflow filter pump-wix51515 filter-cut/turned front beam-AEM wideband-Auber CHT

[Nacho_74]

I would think that the plastic wrap and or stretch wrap would expand & sag during the initial curing of the epoxy because of the heat it generates.

Back in my teenage years we used flannel material to shape custom subwoofer enclosures and then overlay the fiberglass with epoxy resin. There's videos on the University of YouTube on this method.

[ORANGECRUSHer]

Yeah, I didn't think about the heat. The plastic would not be enough to support it. I think trying to do something on the cheap and fast like this probably isn't gonna cut it and lead to more work in the end.
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Brian H.

OrangeCrushERBerrien Warrior-2.4L Quad4-2x3 arms-1.5Fox coilovers-094-930CVs
LAZY MARY1970 Baja 2110cc-82mm CB forged crank-AA pistons/cylinders-Grant rings-1.1 vw rockers-CB serpkit-CB chromoly PRs-CB maxiflow filter pump-wix51515 filter-cut/turned front beam-AEM wideband-Auber CHT

[viiking]

There’s plenty of people on

the internet making free form articles out of fibreglass or epoxy. They use plastic sheet, packaging tape and also wax paper. If you’re making large structures then you’ll need support.

Sheets of polyurethane foam perhaps?

Normally you’d make a “buck” first as a female mould, then glass that to pop out the part.
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1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3

[ORANGECRUSHer]

Yes, I've watched a ton of really good videos but it seems like people who make videos about this stuff don't have jobs and can spend their lives making molds for entire vehicles and sanding them till their elbows fall off. I really like fiberglass stuff but I really should just stick with metal. I think I just needed to get it off my chest and be done with it.
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Brian H.

OrangeCrushERBerrien Warrior-2.4L Quad4-2x3 arms-1.5Fox coilovers-094-930CVs
LAZY MARY1970 Baja 2110cc-82mm CB forged crank-AA pistons/cylinders-Grant rings-1.1 vw rockers-CB serpkit-CB chromoly PRs-CB maxiflow filter pump-wix51515 filter-cut/turned front beam-AEM wideband-Auber CHT

[simon varley]

acrylic or polycarb sheet. mould to shape with a heat gun. then either use directly, or use as your fibreglass mould.

[ORANGECRUSHer]

Hey i like that idea, but have you priced a sheet of lexan lately? It's not light either.
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Brian H.

OrangeCrushERBerrien Warrior-2.4L Quad4-2x3 arms-1.5Fox coilovers-094-930CVs
LAZY MARY1970 Baja 2110cc-82mm CB forged crank-AA pistons/cylinders-Grant rings-1.1 vw rockers-CB serpkit-CB chromoly PRs-CB maxiflow filter pump-wix51515 filter-cut/turned front beam-AEM wideband-Auber CHT