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FPGT72 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2022 Posts: 207
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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I like the tail lights, can you share some info on them. |
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ppilotmike  Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2019 Posts: 75 Location: Oscoda Mi
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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My California Clipper on a 62' pan and running gear.
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alloutchristie Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2022 Posts: 2 Location: Bullhead City
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Stormin189 Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2018 Posts: 58 Location: Santaquin utah
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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2.7T mid engine sandrail |
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c77owen Samba Member

Joined: July 07, 2017 Posts: 455 Location: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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My Berrian Warrior. 2082 with 11.5:1 compression, SPG roller crank, W130 cam, 1.25 rockers, dual 48 IDAs on E85 and now with nitrous. Street legal and a blast to drive. Next year will blow it apart and powder coat
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jake18274 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2016 Posts: 13 Location: 61341
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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MY TOYS... |
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PhillipM Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2010 Posts: 633 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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racecougar Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2023 Posts: 273 Location: Imperial, MO
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Just bought this one a few days ago. Planning to make it street legal. It's a '72 1600, 5-rib, link-pin front, '81 Chenowth frame.
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PhillipM Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2010 Posts: 633 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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It was a little wet this weekend
But she still went well - 7th in yesterdays event and 8th today, out of 75 cars, and 40-50 seconds per stage faster than the next nearest 2wd competitor.
Given the amount of 400 horsepower, 4wd cars there, pretty happy. |
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BFB Samba Member

Joined: November 03, 2014 Posts: 2623
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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I get the purpose of them but those fenders sure deter from the aesthetics of a buggy _________________ "how am i supposed to torque the rear wheel nut to 250 ft lbs??? " - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
Most experts aren't. |
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 14707 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:51 am Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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No they are not pretty but pretty doesn't win races, function does. It's all about being able to see after you hit a mud bog. Pretty is for curb and trailer queens and car shows. Each in it's place. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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PhillipM Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2010 Posts: 633 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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The mudguards?
They're regulation, have to have 120* arc covered, at least 30* forward of the axle, no tyre visible from above, no more than 6 inches of tyre from the rear at ride height.
It's to protect spectators from rocks mainly, there were some nasty accidents in rallying and safari in the EU a while back.
Even then we still put a dent in a marshalls car last year.
And yes, help a lot in the mud or water crossings, you can see the state of the screen sometimes. I need to get it recoated with quartz again to bead the mud off, I haven't got around to it with the new screen yet. |
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PhillipM Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2010 Posts: 633 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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...and they're not perfect but they do their job in the water too.
You can see how much they keep the general dirt down even on harder stuff too there. |
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Mudbug66 Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2020 Posts: 1 Location: LA
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Built 4 years ago from a junked one to this. Street legal and we cruise a lil with it but we built it for cruising the coast.
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67rustavenger Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 11004 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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This is not my car.
I was cruising through FB Old School Buggies page this evening, and spotted this pic,
I don't know if any here have ever met Sand Crab (Pat).
I knew him as a kid years ago.
Pat always had over the top sandrails, starting with corvair powered buggies.
The last time I saw one of his creations (pictured above) was at the Sonoma VW show and drags some 32 years ago.
Pat called the car above the Blown Explorer. It was a very well built car, IIRC. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo!
2003 Astrovan? GFYS again, Xevin!  |
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ghiatin Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2010 Posts: 6 Location: Los Angeles,CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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I picked this up a while back. Got it with an extra set of centerlines, some old school tires, blown motor with eepco heads, swing axle trans, extra 091 trans and trailing arms for 3500.00. Came with a pink and it’s street legal! I think it’s a high jumper? Any ideas?
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dustymojave Samba Member

Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5820 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Yes. It IS a Hi Jumper Ascot frame. Similar to mine you will see in my avatar.
Cool buy.
Lucky if it IS street registered. That was what I planned for my Hi Jumper in the mid 70s when I ordered my frame, but my pals talked me into going offroad racing with it, it got crashed, and before I fixed it, California decided that they would make it so registering it for the street would be a VERY difficult task. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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Kicked Cancer's A$$...1st and 2nd round...Fight ain't over yet. |
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ghiatin Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2010 Posts: 6 Location: Los Angeles,CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Right on, thanks! I do have a pink and it’s non op-ed right now. The gentleman I picked it up from talked about throwing a Honda in it, I’m not sure what path to take to be honest…how would a 1968 move one of these around? |
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dustymojave Samba Member

Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5820 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Well since I raced mine with an 1835 with a 2 barrel Weber (single 40DCNF) and won races and a Championship against cars with 2180s that had beaten many V8 powered trucks...I would say it would work just fine.
1968 is an unusual displacement for a VW Type 1 engine. What crank/cylinder combination produces that?
A 69mm crank and 94mm cylinders makes a 1914. Which is pretty common, but is pushing the bounds of cylinder diameter for a T1.
If you want a Glamis big dune car, there are other frames that are lighter and work better for that as well as bigger engines with turbos that will also work better for big dunes. For general hard rock type desert offroading your engine and frame should work fine. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
SoCalBajas Member
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ghiatin Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2010 Posts: 6 Location: Los Angeles,CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Show off your Dune Buggy or SandRail |
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Not to sure what my goal is as to just want to get it running first and cruise it around the street. A 1968cc is a 92 p/c with a 74 crank. I'm thinking that only because I already have a set of 92 type A forged Mahle's and a clearanced case picked up like 20 years ago, thought it might be fun to build. A 091 trans was included with the deal, is it worth making this buggy IRS or would you stick with the swing axle? Thanks. |
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