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tjet  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:05 am Post subject: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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Earl Bay Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2015 Posts: 86 Location: France 38
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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It almost seems to be although not entirely certain at 480p
I don't see a belly pan but rather shiny silver bits that could be something like a
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mikedjames Samba Member

Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2298 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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I think it is one of the very few prototype 4x4 factory conversions..https://www.hagerty.com/media/automotive-history/v...the-dunes/ _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
1974 VW T2 : Devon Eurovette camper with 1641 DP T1 engine, Progressive carb, full flow oil cooler, EDIS crank timed ignition.
Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
Gearbox rebuild 2021 by Bears.
1979 Westerly GK24 24 foot racer/cruiser yacht Forethought of Gosport.
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rsbadura Samba Member

Joined: November 30, 2009 Posts: 580 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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Yes
this bus in the sandpit is a well known VW T2 4x4 prototype - but to late and expensive for production in the T2.
This first - at VW under cover project of engineers - prototype of 1975 was killed at the test area next to the VW development center later.
There were 5 more official prototypes, also as beige Westfalia and a beige tin top bus. Normally VW prototype vehicles were destroyed and not sold to customers. The beige Westfalia as last survivor was sold and is sometimes on German car meetings, shows and museum.
Also tested in Africa by chief engineer "Gustav Mayer" (RIP, enthusiastic Sahara desert driver) and engineer "Henning Duckstein" (RIP) from VW Commercial Vehicles.
The T3 Syncro 1984 was the successor of this team and then Steyr-Daimler-Puch.
Magazine cover March 1979 - in red letters: VW bus with all-wheel drive
(it include schema drawing and photos from below)
But these are not the first 4x4 VWs. These were others like a beetle type 87 "Kommandeurswagen" in 1943 etc.
regards, _________________ Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupe
1979 VW Bus L to camper conversion
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo
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otiswesty Samba Member

Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1636 Location: Portland
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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That beige one is cool _________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2007 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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I believe there's one non-camper 4WD prototype in VW Museum.
I just need some of you to create a distraction while I steal it. |
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RWK Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2009 Posts: 1187 Location: S.W. MI
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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From Aug. 1979 magazine
_________________ 73 Type 181
63 Type 113
63 Type 261- 428 071
62 Type 241-378 025 178 530 |
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rsbadura Samba Member

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germansupplyscott Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Does this bay look like it's 4wd? |
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Interesting that the front bumper is mounted higher on the body. _________________ SL |
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rsbadura Samba Member

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