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shagginwagon83  Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 4331 Location: SWVA
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:54 pm Post subject: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Just saw this on GoWesty's site:
https://gowesty.com/products/gowesty-bigger-brakes
From site:
New offering! We now offer a Bigger Brake Kit for all 1980-85 Early Vanagons. No more spindle swappin', or fussin' around required!
Our Bigger Brakes are properly engineered from the ground up, no corners cut. We feel the GoWesty 'Bigger Brake' system is simply the best front disk-brake system on the market for the Vanagon.
I think the price is pretty attractive! I am thinking I could have my friend turn down my front OEM rotors and then only pay $600 to upgrade!
As far as I know, only Small car and GoWesty have early spindle offerings. _________________ "Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 1555 Location: san diego
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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when they come back into stock.
prices are better than they used to be, if you needed the hub and bearings, it was what, $350 extra. _________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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vanagondan Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2020 Posts: 94 Location: WA
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 10372 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:12 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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But why does your link say different bearings for aircooled than water cooled?
Water cooled began with some 82 model year van but the bearings didn't change until early 84 model year.
Aircooled and water cooled overlapped for 1.5 years and after that almost 1 year more of watercooled still used the early bearings.
Mark
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Mateo83 Samba Member

Joined: September 14, 2021 Posts: 645 Location: Lodi, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:15 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Little or No?
"NO SPINDLE MODIFICATIONS" _________________ 83 Air-cooled 2.0 Tin Top |
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calsurf Samba Member

Joined: June 28, 2022 Posts: 186 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:03 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Seems promising. Looking forward to someone providing a review. What rotor is that? I hope it's not another GW proprietary item.
Found my answer-"Unlike the Audi-based alternative (among several others), this kit does not rely on another production vehicle to keep this system’s components in stock. We went straight to one of the largest OEM manufacturers for these components and had them made specifically for us. Starting with their most common and reliable single-piston caliper drawing, we developed the biggest and most robust package that could be shoe-horned onto the Vanagon platform. Every component in this kit (with the exception of the brake pads) is batch produced piece-by-piece for GoWesty. This ensures that replacement parts can always be manufactured at the low volume levels that a small company like ours requires." |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17836 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:30 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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calsurf wrote: |
Seems promising. Looking forward to someone providing a review. What rotor is that? I hope it's not another GW proprietary item.
Found my answer-"Unlike the Audi-based alternative (among several others), this kit does not rely on another production vehicle to keep this system’s components in stock. We went straight to one of the largest OEM manufacturers for these components and had them made specifically for us. Starting with their most common and reliable single-piston caliper drawing, we developed the biggest and most robust package that could be shoe-horned onto the Vanagon platform. Every component in this kit (with the exception of the brake pads) is batch produced piece-by-piece for GoWesty. This ensures that replacement parts can always be manufactured at the low volume levels that a small company like ours requires." |
fuck that. it's hard enough to get parts for a production vehicle today. no way would I do something that is so proprietary like that, especially brakes. _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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vanagondan Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2020 Posts: 94 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:37 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Mateo83 wrote: |
Little or No?
"NO SPINDLE MODIFICATIONS" |
There are two threaded 14 mm bolt holes on each spindle. The bolt that goes through to hold the caliper carrier gets a nut on it. So the threaded holes aren't needed. If you choose to do so you can drill them out to ~15 mm to make assembly easier. Or you can just thread the 14 mm bolt through.
So, little or no. |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7190 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:47 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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vanagondan wrote: |
Mateo83 wrote: |
Little or No?
"NO SPINDLE MODIFICATIONS" |
There are two threaded 14 mm bolt holes on each spindle. The bolt that goes through to hold the caliper carrier gets a nut on it. So the threaded holes aren't needed. If you choose to do so you can drill them out to ~15 mm to make assembly easier. Or you can just thread the 14 mm bolt through.
So, little or no. |
Early spindles are not threaded, it's a through bolt, one of the holes has a step, I forgot if it's the top or bottom one. The calipers are tapped M14.
Late spindles are tapped M16, the bolt goes through the caliper. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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vanagondan Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2020 Posts: 94 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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ALIKA T3 wrote: |
vanagondan wrote: |
Mateo83 wrote: |
Little or No?
"NO SPINDLE MODIFICATIONS" |
There are two threaded 14 mm bolt holes on each spindle. The bolt that goes through to hold the caliper carrier gets a nut on it. So the threaded holes aren't needed. If you choose to do so you can drill them out to ~15 mm to make assembly easier. Or you can just thread the 14 mm bolt through.
So, little or no. |
Early spindles are not threaded, it's a through bolt, one of the holes has a step, I forgot if it's the top or bottom one. The calipers are tapped M14.
Late spindles are tapped M16, the bolt goes through the caliper. |
Every early spindle we've had come through the shop has threaded 14 mm holes. Late vans have 16 mm through holes. |
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therastavan Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2020 Posts: 113 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:10 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Everything on the GoWesty big brake kit is proprietary except the brake pads, so not sure what they mean by "this kit does not rely on another production vehicle to keep this system’s components in stock" because we have to rely on GoWesty to keep this system's components in stock, and since this is already their 3rd Gen big brake kit, and they have discontinued their previous 2 big brake kits, who knows if they will stock these parts once we hit their Gen 4. Having said that, their price is significantly less than competitor offerings and their replacement rotor prices are reasonable. Still, the best way to go is to do a Porsche big brake upgrade using Epytec adapters and Mercedes 312x28mm rotors but cost will be over twice.
One Samba member said their GoWesty big brakes still had fade issues on downhills but not nearly as much as original brakes. |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7190 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:10 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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vanagondan wrote: |
ALIKA T3 wrote: |
vanagondan wrote: |
Mateo83 wrote: |
Little or No?
"NO SPINDLE MODIFICATIONS" |
There are two threaded 14 mm bolt holes on each spindle. The bolt that goes through to hold the caliper carrier gets a nut on it. So the threaded holes aren't needed. If you choose to do so you can drill them out to ~15 mm to make assembly easier. Or you can just thread the 14 mm bolt through.
So, little or no. |
Early spindles are not threaded, it's a through bolt, one of the holes has a step, I forgot if it's the top or bottom one. The calipers are tapped M14.
Late spindles are tapped M16, the bolt goes through the caliper. |
Every early spindle we've had come through the shop has threaded 14 mm holes. Late vans have 16 mm through holes. |
God dammit, you're right, my apologies. I guess I should not post on TheSamba while feeding the baby early morning, my brain is shit!! Re-reading my comment, even my late self is surprised by this statement. I even tapped a new set of Jaguar calipers recently for late spindle. Dad brain  _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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82westyrabbit Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2015 Posts: 1013 Location: Ma
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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I ordered a set. This has been on my list for a few years. I hope I can get them before I really need new brakes. I’m glad I saw this thread. John |
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Kdj Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2017 Posts: 267 Location: Naptown
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Can't even order them on their site. "this kit does not rely on another production vehicle to keep this system’s components in stock" Out of stock!  |
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82westyrabbit Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2015 Posts: 1013 Location: Ma
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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We will see if they show up. Have they sold any yet or are they checking to see if they get enough orders to make a run of them. Yes I would prefer if they used a rotor from a production car. I am sure I could have made a home brew big break kit. I hope this works so I don’t have to. John |
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calsurf Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:47 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Pulled the trigger on these. The "Fireworks23" coupon code was too tempting. Lord help me in my weakness! |
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vanagondan Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Does anyone know what the piston diameter is on the newest version of the GoWesty front brake kit? |
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11BC2 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2017 Posts: 496 Location: Cool, California
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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ALIKA T3 wrote: |
God dammit, you're right, my apologies. I guess I should not post on TheSamba while feeding the baby early morning, my brain is shit!! Re-reading my comment, even my late self is surprised by this statement. I even tapped a new set of Jaguar calipers recently for late spindle. Dad brain  |
I wasn't gonna say anything, because I knew you'd catch yourself.
Also, The Jaguar calipers with Audi 5000 Quattro rotors are more brake than my Doka needs; she's slow but can stop on a dime! |
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Altoona Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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vanagondan wrote: |
Does anyone know what the piston diameter is on the newest version of the GoWesty front brake kit? |
Should be 64mm, it is basically the same as a 2001 Highlander caliper.Their casting just has some small modifications to help it clear a wider variety of 15" wheels. |
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Kdj Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:42 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty "best on market" bigger front brake kit? Early spindles! |
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Altoona wrote: |
vanagondan wrote: |
Does anyone know what the piston diameter is on the newest version of the GoWesty front brake kit? |
Should be 64mm, it is basically the same as a 2001 Highlander caliper.Their casting just has some small modifications to help it clear a wider variety of 15" wheels. |
So are you saying a highlander caliper will bolt up to an early vanagon spindle? Can anyone confirm this or did they get their own mounting bracket made for a similar caliper from major OEM vendor? |
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