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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 am    Post subject: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

im working on a 51 bug , body is off the pan so i cant test the fit ....here is my hand crank . i bought this decades ago . just trying to confirm its for a bug not a bus ????? i think the length is the only difference ?

the longest section here is around 19 inches ....

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

zwitter uk posted this a couple of years ago...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

Thanks Finster , the 51 CM section equals 20 inches so i think m good Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

how does the hub piece attach?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

thats a hand crank crankshaft pulley nut . the one shown is just a extra one here shown for reference , there is one already installed on my motor ...... there is an original hole in my rear apron , and a support piece on the rear bumper to line it all up ......then the rear engine breast plate has a little door to open that allows the the hand crank in .......i have never done it but have all the parts to do so .... looking forward to that day Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

thanx!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

here is the support part i got that attaches to the SPLIT only grooved rear bumper from Mika .

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

i have had the 51 for over 30 years , dis assembled it and have been gathering parts ever since ... i have made a few mistakes along the way buying the wrong part ......here is an example , i bought this rear hand crank bumper bracket decades ago , seller said it was for splits so i bought it ........well its for the next generation bumper not a grooved bumper , this one matches the curve of the later bumper perfectly ........... so one is for splits and the other is for zwitter and later bugs with the new style bumper . the split style sits on top of the bumper and the oval style goes inside the bumper . either way you need to drill holes .......

i imagine there is a different bracket for a bus bumper ? i have seen videos of bugs being hand crank started but i have not seen it done with a bus ?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

quote - I have seen videos of bugs being hand crank started but i have not seen it done with a bus ?

it's all out there somewhere...

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the bus handle does look to be shorter than the beetle one.
I remember being instructed not to wrap my thumb around the starter handle and keep an open palm. the engine might kick back and your thumb can be dislocated.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

this is what started me down this rabbit hole . the hole looks factory to me as the latch bracket is just a bit above the hole like it was welded on after the hole was done ???


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

thanks for sharing the bus video , i guess a bus doesnt need the extra bumper bracket piece ...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

my3bugs wrote:
thanks for sharing the bus video , i guess a bus doesnt need the extra bumper bracket piece ...


On a Bus the rear apron supports it as it's double-walled.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

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quote - I have seen videos of bugs being hand crank started but i have not seen it done with a bus ?

it's all out there somewhere...
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the bus handle does look to be shorter than the beetle one.
I remember being instructed not to wrap my thumb around the starter handle and keep an open palm. the engine might kick back and your thumb can be dislocated.


a friend of mine in germany used to start his 52 split by jacking up one side and putting it in 3rd gear, and just turning the wheel. Not sure if there is video of that. no cell phones in the 90s......
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

that's a faff of a job, messing with jacks and all. there is a youtube of an aussie guy demonstrating it but the video jumps suspiciously from him pushing the rear wheel around to the car suddenly running with him out of shot Laughing . I started my oval using a strap around the dynamo pully as a cord start - a lot easier.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Bug hand crank starting features Reply with quote

he doesnt have the rear bumper support piece to keep it lined up better .
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