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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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I visited with my buddy today and he said he rethought it.... and his diode hack won't work. I couldn't see it but I was willing to learn something. So... I'm going to order one of those trailer light adapters.
The column that was in the buggy was out if a Ghia, maybe. It has a 3x3 square with spade terminals, and slots to screw under the dash. It made for a horrible hole through the original ABS dash. I bought a bug column that is just a round tube, so that is another tune up project. |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5498 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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516swg wrote: |
So.... Samanth came with the single Impala taillights, and little Hitchhiker's mounted above the license plate.
I've gone over the wiring diagram and it shows I need 3 elements for the taillights, but.... Shirley, there's gotta be a way to make a 2 element bulb do everything: lights, brakes, blinkers????
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This circuit is what I use on my buggy to combine brake lights and turn signals (as seen on older Bugs and many American vehicles) and it also combines the front parking lights and turn signals in the same fashion.
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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I think I see it. 85 and 86 is the coil, and looks like 87A and 30 are normally closed and 87 and 30 are normally open. This would allow brake power straight through the coil and the blinker would break it with the flasher. Same with the front park, although I have dual element in the front. Just checked Amazon, they said that trailer switch is at my front door |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5498 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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516swg wrote: |
I think I see it. 85 and 86 is the coil, and looks like 87A and 30 are normally closed and 87 and 30 are normally open. This would allow brake power straight through the coil and the blinker would break it with the flasher. Same with the front park, although I have dual element in the front. Just checked Amazon, they said that trailer switch is at my front door |
You got it.
Some people have good luck with a trailer adapter, for others it doesn't seem to work. If you do have problems try adding a little load between the input terminals and ground to simulate actual lights connected on the input side. Even 360 ohm 1/2 watt resistors might be enough, for a little more load 100 ohm 2 watt resistors could be used.
To just adapt the brake lights and turn signals in the rear you can do it with just 2 relays. The side effect is front brake lights, but I'm not aware of any state where that is illegal.
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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Here's Samantha's new taillights. After researching, the originals weren't from an Impala. They're from a Biscayne. Basically, it's the same, like calling a Firebird a Trans Am!! I won't use them all, but pretty nice set. Brand new LED Impala taillights! Whoowee!
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12767 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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What is the hole diameter they fit in? _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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I'll post a pic, but basically they fit with a 1" hole and a stud top and bottom. The hole just needs to be big enough to fit the wires. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12767 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:45 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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I would love to have a set of those instead of what I have but I would have to glass in the present holes first then. Not quite ready to do that yet. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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If they don't fall through you should be good. The original owner of my Manx cut large holes, nearly the diameter of the original taillights. I don't think he needed that big of a hole with those either. So, for the new lights, I'm going to have to come up with a bracket to secure them to the body.
On another note: I was playing with my wiring the other day, and installed that trailer adapter, it made my brake lights come on. It was late and I didn't dig into the issue, but...
Does that have to do with the issue requiring a resistor? |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5498 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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You appear to be pushing into several potential problem areas at once, so it is hard to say.
The brake light switch (or the turn signal switch) can be a high resistance connection when off. This isn't even noticed with conventional tail lights, but can be a problem with LEDs because they need so little current. It can cause some LED tail lights to go to full brake light brightness when just the lower output tail lights are requested.
Some trailer converters need to see a ground at the inputs when those inputs are off.
With LED tail lights are are likely going to need a flasher designed for them. Conventional flashers need about an amp (or more) of current to work. _________________
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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Should have added:
Lights were fine prior to adding the trailer module, except for blinkers**** like I said it was late, but I may not have had the blinkers powered prior to installing the traler module... And I didn't hook up the output ground. I did touch it to ground but that was it |
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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Here's how I roll: I've found my stress level is much lower if I write my tasks down; rather than try to keep from forgetting. If I try to remember everything, I get frazzled, worried I'm going to forget, and it causes unneeded stress. There's 4 of these right now.
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Glassy Guy Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 213 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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Hey I say if it's working for you. I think we all have a method to the madness. |
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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The lists were a recent conversation with my buddy and his wife. He's building a really rare 69 Dodge Dart GTS Convertible with a factory big block. He keeps it all in his head, and it rolls out his lips four times a day. It drives his wife nuts. I told her to hand him a note pad and a pencil everytime he repeats himself. He was doing the same thing with me one day he was helping me. He kept naming things to do for my Manx and I had to keep telling him to read the list. It's already on the wall! |
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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Anyone ever seen one of these? I imagine it was green 50 years ago. The dash is discolored under it, I'd kinda like another one
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 47 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Meet Samantha! My Meyers Manx |
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Hi. Thank you for your wiring help!! Here's what I found. The blinker switch was leaking @6 volts. And. The was enough to make the trailer adapter turn on the brake lights. After this and that blah blah blah. I connected a regular bulb as a resistor, and wholla... is that how you spell wall-ah? So... I had some resistors but they weren't enough. But. Problem solved!!! Whoop whoop |
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