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MALCOLM THOMPSON Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2021 Posts: 2 Location: auckland new zealand
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Hi Can some one help me please. i have swf smooth semaphores which wont return down after turning off. It will park down with a bit of manual persuasion. I have bought a replacement spring set from Kaefer nostalgia? but despite requests they wont send any instructions as to replacing these springs. The main culprit must be the return spring which is missing so i have no idea where it goes.
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Matts Bug Parts Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2001 Posts: 203
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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PM sent.
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Ted2 Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2004 Posts: 259
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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I had Matthew Ross restore the semaphore for my '55. The work was excellent and they work perfectly. |
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scarroll Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2003 Posts: 157
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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What semaphore part number is correct for my November '54 Bug? SWF or SHO? VW logo? Smooth or ribbed? Thanks very much! |
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Matts Bug Parts Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2001 Posts: 203
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Smooth, SWF or SHO are both correct. Dark orange lenses.
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Matts Bug Parts Samba Member
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scarroll Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2003 Posts: 157
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Thanks very much! |
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vw_costa Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Hi. My 59 beetle has a 12V system and I am using a stepdown reducer to deliver 6V to the semaphores (6V output adjusted using a multimeter). But, even with the 6V feed, the semaphores are heating, something like 60 tto 70ºC. Is It OK or i am in troubles? Thanks |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17430 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Get a 6V battery and connect it to your semaphore. Then run it and measure the temperature every 30 seconds. Let it run as long as you want.
Now hook it up in your 12V cct in the car and repeat the test. If the temps are the same at the same time interval, you're good. _________________
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17430 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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scarroll wrote: |
What semaphore part number is correct for my November '54 Bug? SWF or SHO? |
Beetles got SWF semaphores, Buses got SHO. _________________
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markendee Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2009 Posts: 290 Location: Kyabram, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Suboval Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2003 Posts: 796
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Bruce wrote: |
Beetles got SWF semaphores, Buses got SHO. |
And what information is that based on? _________________ It all works on paper.
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56Cabrio Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 1944 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17430 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Suboval wrote: |
Bruce wrote: |
Beetles got SWF semaphores, Buses got SHO. |
And what information is that based on? |
Heard a guy at a show say that in the late 80s. Then ever since, every original Beetle semaphore I've seen was SWF and every Bus was SHO.
Date codes can be used to determine later replacements. _________________
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17430 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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56Cabrio wrote: |
(From EverettB's gallery)
Semaphores from my '54 Barndoor Single Cab
I'm pretty sure these are the originals.
SWF. Part # AL 143.001.1
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Date code of the semaphore?
Month of manufacture of the SC? _________________
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70392 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Bruce wrote: |
56Cabrio wrote: |
(From EverettB's gallery)
Semaphores from my '54 Barndoor Single Cab
I'm pretty sure these are the originals.
SWF. Part # AL 143.001.1
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Date code of the semaphore?
Month of manufacture of the SC? |
Unknown on the semaphore date code and I no longer own it so I cannot check.
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17430 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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A bus guy like you Everett should have an opinion on this. Do you see mostly SHO semaphores in Type 2s? _________________
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Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70392 Location: Phoenix 602
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tunes Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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Hi all! I'm a newly when it comes to semaphores. My right hand side one comes out only a bit and doesn't spring or jump up like the left side one. I have a '56 Oval.
Could it be the semaphore spring isn't strong enough anymore, or something else that is failing? It does release, but not enough. Opens quarter to half way. It sometimes opens all the way, but VERY seldom!
Now, I'm wondering if it could be the semaphore spring? (looks like a normal round spring when I look on websites like the one I've attached) and if it is indeed this spring , how does one find this spring on the semaphore to replace it? How difficult is this?
I also see new 6v semaphores for sale on a few sites. And as I've read some are of bad quality, I don't want to simply spend so much on a new one, when perhaps it could be a simple spring replacement on my original one.
Also, the new semaphores one buys online, come with a black cover plate over the lens. Mine is the painted the same color as the car, do I somehow swap out my painted one and remove the new black one, or do I have to spray paint the new one, even though I have a perfect one already painted?
Looking for some advice.
Thanks!
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17430 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Restoring semaphores |
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The springs in semaphores have nothing to do with how well it pops open. The spring in your pic is part of the mechanism that holds the semaphore in the down position when it is not powered on. You may have noticed that when you turn right quickly, the left semaphore doesn't swing out.
Virtually all weak semaphores are due to voltage drops in the cct. You have to verify every connection from the positive of the battery to the negative of the battery. Use your volt meter to measure the voltage at the bottom terminal of the semaphore. Compare readings on both sides. The weaker side will have a lower voltage there. _________________
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