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professor229 Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2009 Posts: 40 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:41 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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| Thanks.... sorry about the post in the wrong area.... I am not totally familiar with this forum so I took the time this morning to go back and look and NOW I see where all the different categories are listed and yes, there is one for Kit Cars too.... and that is probably where it belongs. I am an old school guy from the 60's so I questioned a dual master cylinder because that is what I have worked on for many years with Chevrolet and it is easy to take a look to see if one reservoir is being depleted.... I guess then that the only way to know on a VW is to see the plastic reservoir "lower" in volume or brake fluid on the ground. It is comforting to know this fact because the emergency brake has not been used in decades on this car and is almost inaccessible because of all the modifications to the car. I will pull the rear wheel and take a look (listen) as someone steps hard on the brake pedal... Thanks for taking the time to answer this..... |
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Busstom Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 4583 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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I'm reading ^this^ post and thinking - - - - NEWB.
Then I looked at your join date - - - - IRONIC.
Not that there's anything wrong with that  _________________ My name's Steve and it's pronounced "Bust 'em" (cuz people think I'm Tom)
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cdennisg Samba Member

Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20967 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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| professor229 wrote: |
| Thanks.... sorry about the post in the wrong area.... I am not totally familiar with this forum so I took the time this morning to go back and look and NOW I see where all the different categories are listed and yes, there is one for Kit Cars too.... and that is probably where it belongs. I am an old school guy from the 60's so I questioned a dual master cylinder because that is what I have worked on for many years with Chevrolet and it is easy to take a look to see if one reservoir is being depleted.... I guess then that the only way to know on a VW is to see the plastic reservoir "lower" in volume or brake fluid on the ground. It is comforting to know this fact because the emergency brake has not been used in decades on this car and is almost inaccessible because of all the modifications to the car. I will pull the rear wheel and take a look (listen) as someone steps hard on the brake pedal... Thanks for taking the time to answer this..... |
If you've been messing with cars that long, the rear drum brakes on a beetle chassis will be easy as pie for you. You do need the tools/ability to remove the rear axle nut which is torqued to well over 200 ft/lbs. It is a 32mm socket size (can't recall the standard equivalent).
Where are you in MN? Lots of VW folks there that might be able to help. I grew up there and will be visiting this spring sometime. _________________ Confusious say it takes it takes two wipes to know you need three, but it takes three wipes to know it only needed two. |
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zigstardust65 Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 53
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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I'm thinking about getting the Type E kit for my '66, but torn on what to do about the dual circuit Master cylinder. I have always heard to always go German for for your MC, and never skimp on quality for an important component like that. I know many have suggested going with the Type E MC, but I might lose some sleep by tossing my Ate MC to go with something Chinese.
Has anyone that used this kit gone with a German MC instead? Any issues? Are the Chinese MCs just as good as German, or is everything Chinese now anyway? |
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Erik G Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13584 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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| zigstardust65 wrote: |
I'm thinking about getting the Type E kit for my '66, but torn on what to do about the dual circuit Master cylinder. I have always heard to always go German for for your MC, and never skimp on quality for an important component like that. I know many have suggested going with the Type E MC, but I might lose some sleep by tossing my Ate MC to go with something Chinese.
Has anyone that used this kit gone with a German MC instead? Any issues? Are the Chinese MCs just as good as German, or is everything Chinese now anyway? |
have you asked Brian E? |
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BulliBill Samba Member

Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4793 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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You didn't ask me, but I'll tell you my thoughts.
For a long time I also thought "German only" on the DC master cylinder and did so many years on my '67 Campmobile. But I watched the reviews that popped up occasionally on the then new Chinese reproduction of the DC MC. I figured there would be a "teething period". After a couple of years I saw no more mention of issues with the Chinese units. Then I saw that Type E Motorsports was supplying them if desired with their kit. By then I already owned a Chinese unit as a on-board back up master cylinder in case my ATE unit acted up while out on the road.
I wanted that Type E disc brake system on my Campmobile! I bought it, and had him send another Chinese master cylinder also. I've been running the Type E Motorsports disc brakes with a new Chinese master cylinder for almost a year and I absolutely LOVE this brake set! at the same time I installed new rear wheel cylinders too as well as all flexible rubber brake hoses. I can happily report that I have had no issues with either the master cylinder or the disc brake kit. I approach green street lights now and almost dare them to go yellow so I can stop quickly without nervousness and straight as an arrow with that brake system. I'm quite happy with these brakes.
I still hope that a Type E disc brake system will eventually come out for the 15" wheel early Buses as I have two single circuit 1959 Buses that will each get them. When I approach street lights in those Buses I still instinctively reach to hold the e-brake handle as a back-up if the light goes yellow on me. I'm no longer doing that in my '67 Camper!
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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Brian_e  Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 4203 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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| zigstardust65 wrote: |
| Has anyone that used this kit gone with a German MC instead? Any issues? Are the Chinese MCs just as good as German, or is everything Chinese now anyway? |
I have sold 166 master cylinder kits in the last 3.5 years. I get all of them from the same wholesaler/importer, and I have seen about 3-4 different variations in that time, all depending on supply. I don't get to choose. I take what I can get.
Out of the 166 sold, I have had to replace 4 because the owners could not get them to bleed correctly. I know one of those was install error. A few of them have had leaking grommets where the reservoir presses in, but we have found a little bit of dielectric grease on the grommets makes them go together MUCH easier, and then the grommets sit correctly.
Brian _________________ So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
-Modok
Narrowed beams, Drop adjustable spring plates, Bus disk brake and IRS kits.
www.type-emotorsports.com
Type E Engine Parts and Supplies
https://type-emotorsports.com/collections/engine-parts |
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2type2 Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2002 Posts: 1201 Location: SW Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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What I can say is - Get Brian's brakes! I put them on my '66 and now I actually feel like I can survive amongst all the oversize SUV on the road. Don't sweat it it's an ez install with the MC swap. It will make you want to and you'll drive your bus twice as often
Since everything up front is gonna be new, at least update your rear rubber lines and flush everything. I call this the one best improvement you can do to any stock bus. _________________ "A life of peace and happiness depends on your own gratefulness" |
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zigstardust65 Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 53
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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Thanks for the feedback, just ordered the kit from Brian!
Does anyone have any pics of their belly pan modification to accommodate the longer master cylinder? |
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Brian_e  Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 4203 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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zigstardust65 Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 53
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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Thanks Brian, I didn't realize the belly pan pic on your site had already been trimmed. Looks like a clean job!👍 |
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Brian_e  Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 4203 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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| zigstardust65 wrote: |
| Thanks Brian, I didn't realize the belly pan pic on your site had already been trimmed. Looks like a clean job!👍 |
The clean trim job, and picture were done courtesy of Sled.
Brian _________________ So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
-Modok
Narrowed beams, Drop adjustable spring plates, Bus disk brake and IRS kits.
www.type-emotorsports.com
Type E Engine Parts and Supplies
https://type-emotorsports.com/collections/engine-parts |
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2783 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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Brian - any good news on the early (pre 63) kits/hubs? I am considering a 57 that could use them...
Thanks.
Larry _________________ Larry in OB
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69 Westfalia and 2002 Eurovan Camper.
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dtadpole Samba Member

Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 108 Location: Southern Illinois
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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Can't wait to get my setup installed, my type e kit is in the mail! _________________ 1965 velvet green walk-thru standard
scrappythebus.com
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Long-roofs Samba Member

Joined: March 20, 2002 Posts: 2384 Location: Millwood, Wa
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Front disc brake conversion |
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| OB Bus wrote: |
Brian - any good news on the early (pre 63) kits/hubs? I am considering a 57 that could use them...
Thanks.
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I believe he is working on it. Why not just get a '64-'67 beam? You can also get '64-'67 spindles, install your king pins in them, add to your '57 beam.
I recently put a '67 beam with sway bar in a '56, and put Type E disc kit on, works well. _________________ ---
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