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StellaBlueWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2024 Posts: 4 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bassyaks wrote: |
Great write up, but spend the $40 and have it done on a Hunter Machine
You have too much free time
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FNGRUVN wrote: |
Sure, you can take it to a tire shop where some dude that's probably hung-over, making $10/hr and hates your stupid foreign car will beat on it.
Do it yourself and you at least know you tried to do it right. That's more than I can say about a lot of "professional" alignments I've seen. |
X2 i've paid out for someone to do an alignment in the past, it came back little or no better, i argued they said i must have hit something to knock it out of alignment
money wasted
now i have seen how, i will be happy to do the job myself
and know it's done right
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I suppose it depends on the shop you use and the technician in the shop, but we have definitely been fleeced on alignments for more than one vehicle.
I am very appreciative that someone would dedicate their time to help the masses have the choice.
Respect 🙏🏻 gratitude, |
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RicMcK  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2023 Posts: 233 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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I've read most of the this thread, and I have a few questions. I'm about to do the front and rear bushings, ball joints, tie rod ends springs, and shocks all the way around.
My questions:
After the installation of new bushings, springs and shocks. Do I do an alignment, then drive it for a bit, then redo the alignment? Or is there a "preferred method"?
I have a pretty flat gravel parking area. Can I do the alignment on this surface? I'm thinking I could put pieces of plywood or concrete pavers under each tire that the vinyl squares can sit on.
How do I set up the rear end adjustments? I do not see any details on Samba.
I'm planning on doing the front castor via the cube level on the steering knuckle, (from T3TRIS) , and check it with the +- 20 degrees method. Then I will make a triangle rim jig from some scrap rectangular tubing and bolts, with digital levels. For the camber /castor. Should I get one of those alignment level tools or are 2 digital levels on the wheel jig ok?
I've read different ways to do toe in. What's the "best" method ? _________________ Rick McK
Seattle
89 Westfalia-2.2L WBX "VINNY"
2006 TDI Jetta
1936 Ford Pick up
70 tin top, 700k mi when sold in 91
58 split window (first car)
58 split window bug - long gone. |
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RicMcK  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2023 Posts: 233 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:24 am Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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Another question. Do I need to lift the tire off of ground to make caster or camber adjustments on the front, and toe / camber on the rear? _________________ Rick McK
Seattle
89 Westfalia-2.2L WBX "VINNY"
2006 TDI Jetta
1936 Ford Pick up
70 tin top, 700k mi when sold in 91
58 split window (first car)
58 split window bug - long gone. |
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RicMcK  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2023 Posts: 233 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:17 am Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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THANK YOU FOR ALL THE ADVICE. Did an alignment yesterday, and it went great except for the vinyl floor tiles did not spin. I used fine grain salt. Next time I will try regular size salt.
My question is about rear wheel camber. One side is at max camber adjustment and I'm still at 0.75°. Prior to the bushing R&R, it was at 0°. What's my solution? Elongate the out side holes some more? _________________ Rick McK
Seattle
89 Westfalia-2.2L WBX "VINNY"
2006 TDI Jetta
1936 Ford Pick up
70 tin top, 700k mi when sold in 91
58 split window (first car)
58 split window bug - long gone. |
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RicMcK  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2023 Posts: 233 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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More questions:
#1. When putting in driver and passenger weights on the seats, do I need to put weigh both seats (about 150-180lb in each seat), or can I weight only the seat on the side I'm adjusting?
I'm asking because I really don't want to have to go buy 6+ bags of concrete or sand, that I will have no use for after doing the alignment.
#2. How much gas should I have in the tank?
#3. Should I adjust/match the ride height with the seats weighted?
Thanks. _________________ Rick McK
Seattle
89 Westfalia-2.2L WBX "VINNY"
2006 TDI Jetta
1936 Ford Pick up
70 tin top, 700k mi when sold in 91
58 split window (first car)
58 split window bug - long gone. |
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jlaudin Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2004 Posts: 20 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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My Syncro has a big brake kit on the front end, this adds about 3/4 inch of width. I wanted to eliminate as many points of error in squaring up my strings, so I used welding magnets attached to the rear hub nut and I can eliminate that portion of squaring up the strings.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7216 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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jlaudin wrote: |
My Syncro has a big brake kit on the front end, this adds about 3/4 inch of width. I wanted to eliminate as many points of error in squaring up my strings, so I used welding magnets attached to the rear hub nut and I can eliminate that portion of squaring up the strings.
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I'm not sure I follow how your big brake kit adds 19mm by itself. The rotor hats are usually around 7 to 9mm thick, so is the stock rotor hat. The stock track width shouldn't be impacted by a big brake kit on a Syncro. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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jlaudin Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2004 Posts: 20 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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Must be the wheel adaptors then. Has 17" Jeep Wheels. |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7216 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Steve M. Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6932 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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Just saw this gadget and APP using a smartphone to check wheel alignment.
I've got my alignment tools so no interest in getting it. Just fyi for modern times!
https://gyraline.com/products/the-case?campaign_id...6628470111 _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them. |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7216 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Steve M. Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6932 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:55 am Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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ALIKA T3 wrote: |
Sounds pretty cool, but is a cell phone reliable for that, I always wondered about using them for tilt and level...? |
I've had photography APP's that had tilt & level features for setting up cameras and they were very accurate. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5530 Location: PNW
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:06 am Post subject: Re: DIY Wheel Alignment |
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I have that tool. I bought it right when it came out because I thought it might be a cool tool for DIY Vanagon owners, but I wanted to try it out first.
I'm not super happy with the results, to be honest. I've tested it several times and it's not all that accurate. However, I will say that it could be accurate to buy a little time before doing a full blown alignment, but I wouldn't rely on it for the long term use. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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